i have a kenya tree coral was doing great now it started to be lying on its side and not opened i wonder if it is dying my salt is 1.023 ph 8.3 it stands up and opens up for awile then goes back over any ideas thanks
Size of tank Ammonia Nitrite Nitrate
Lighting
Filtration system employed
How long has your system been up and running
How long have you had the Kenya
How long have you been reefing
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my ammonia is 0 nitrite is 0 nitritre around .05 my tank is 40 gal with pc lighting 50 50 bulbs at 120 watts had my tree for half a year my tank is one year old thats how long i have been doing this i must say it is alot of fun
i have no mucus i have some snails and a few red leg hermit crabs polyps with plenty of rock and some macro algae it just doesnt seem to be happy my tree was fine for a long time i added nothing new my tree would close up when a snail climbed on it but come right back
has anything recently been added to the tank? have you recently started adding any new additive, or changed salt brands?
anything new at all even if you think its not related it might help.
are you feeding phyto planton or anything to the tank, or anything else that is meant for filter feeders?
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i havent been testing for my trace elements ive been adding i just did a 25% water change within 3 hrs my tree standed up now the next day he looks alive and well i didnt do anything different i wish i knew what i did or didnt do maybe it was stressed out from the hermit crabs climbing on him looking for food can somebody recommend trace elements that i should be adding for my corals and my coraline there are so many to choose from i will start testing for my trace elements now
i havent been testing for my trace elements ive been adding i just did a 25% water change within 3 hrs my tree standed up now the next day he looks alive and well i didnt do anything different i wish i knew what i did or didnt do maybe it was stressed out from the hermit crabs climbing on him looking for food can somebody recommend trace elements that i should be adding for my corals and my coraline there are so many to choose from i will start testing for my trace elements now
Welcome to TR rosco065. I think your post above answers your question.
First, you're dosing products that you are not testing for. This is dangerous because additives can become toxic to your animals if in too high a concentration. Your not testing so, how do you know what the concentration is? Rule #1, never dose an additive you are not or can not test for. This is regardless of what the manufacturer states on the container. The manufacturer has a vested interest in selling product, profit. They have little interest in you being responsible as long as the product sells.
Second, after you did a 25% water change your tree stood up. My guess is that's because you diluted what ever chemical was bothering him. It would be akin to getting a cold drink in a hot desert.
One more note, if your hermits are climbing on your tree looking for food, you probably should see to it that some food reaches the bottom of the tank for the hermits to eat. A few sinking pellets would do the trick.
So, stop dosing everything for now. Get the following test kits asap.
Test for those element's and report your results here.
Rule #3, do not put much faith in advice you get from you LFS. They are notoriously staffed with people less knowledgeable than you. Plus they have a vested interest, too. Making money off sales.
Rule #4, always come to TR for advice before you do most anything with your reef tank. We are here to help.
Dick
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Rosco, as I read your post I thought, the problem is an OD of something and then I read Dick's post and he explained exactly what I was thinking! One more thing, if you are doing regular water changes I believe that any good salt mix will provide all the trace elements you need. Non reef salts don't provide enough Ca and may not provide enough Mg but I don't consider these trace elements. Here is a link to the composition of natural sea water OZ REEF - Natural Sea Water Composition. And, another useful link Reefreaders - Chemistry 101.
Rosco, as I read your post I thought, the problem is an OD of something and then I read Dick's post and he explained exactly what I was thinking! One more thing, if you are doing regular water changes I believe that any good salt mix will provide all the trace elements you need. Non reef salts don't provide enough Ca and may not provide enough Mg but I don't consider these trace elements. Here is a link to the composition of natural sea water OZ REEF - Natural Sea Water Composition. And, another useful link Reefreaders - Chemistry 101.
What is it they say about great minds, Carmie?
Thanks for the great links, by the way.
lReef lKeeper,
Thanks!
Dick
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