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    I completed the project yesterday and I did with a 3inch pvc T and a 3to1 bushing. i made it so it hangs of the side of the tank. The tubes just barely touched the stand. I hooked up 2 of them (3 inch X 24) on a 37 gallon tall. I have very slow flow threw them because it will be a sea horse tank. Im not sure if such a slow flow is good? also i filled it with rubble just to under the drain elbow. Does rubble size mater? mine was pretty small? hot sure how much room there is for growth in the tube. If anything it will just be 15lbs more LR in the system.

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    I a;so would like to have pods grow in it. do you think the way I have it would work for pod growth?

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    You will get some pod growth in it regardless. How much will depend on a ton of factors. The most important factor may be if you have a good population in your display tank to start with.

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    cool. good to here. i need to get a culture going in the tank. any ideas how to kick it off?

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    does this require slow flow or does not matter as I stil have fairly high nitrates, i made mine 60 inches and diameter of 4 inches, 3-4 inches of aragonite on bottom and then pieces of live rock all the way to the top, but my flow is fairly fast

    thanks for any thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by macsturm View Post
    does this require slow flow or does not matter as I stil have fairly high nitrates, i made mine 60 inches and diameter of 4 inches, 3-4 inches of aragonite on bottom and then pieces of live rock all the way to the top, but my flow is fairly fast

    thanks for any thoughts
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    thank you very much for the link, I think I will try it after I get back from Germany, right now, I am trying a diy sulfer denitrator, also using Fauna Marin Ultralife (Highly active clay minerals directly bind diverse nitrogen compunds and phosphate, which can easily be removed by protein skimming. UltraLife is not based on zeolites thus it may also act as a carrier particle for nutrients and bacteria.) And also trying vodka dosing which is also supposed to reduce nitrates and phosphates.

    So far I am 3 weeks into the vodka dosing and at 1.5 ml(very slow) and everything still looks healthy

    4 days into the Ultralife, and it has definitely made the tank look clearer

    and 2 weeks into sulphur denitrator, but I am guessing it might take a month to populate, yes I do have it going through aragonite container after the sulphur.


    I am probably doing way to much at the same time

    thanks again

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    Sump: 20G (2" sb)(cheato) & 8G subsump (6"sb)(10lbs LR)
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    Return: remote fuge with mag pump
    Overflow: Lifereef
    Heater: black strealth
    Phosphate Reactor: bag of GFO
    running Carbon Media 24/7
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    Hi rarelyseriuosb and to TR.

    I would suggest Ocean Pods - Aquacultured Copepods for the hobbyist for pods. They are also a TR sponsor. You may also want to listen to this podcast http://www.talkingreef.com/forums/po...sode-69-a.html where Rob interviews Dr Adelaide Rhodes from Ocean Pods. The podcast has tons of information and is definitely not a Commercial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmieJo View Post
    Hi rarelyseriuosb and to TR.

    I would suggest Ocean Pods - Aquacultured Copepods for the hobbyist for pods. They are also a TR sponsor. You may also want to listen to this podcast http://www.talkingreef.com/forums/po...sode-69-a.html where Rob interviews Dr Adelaide Rhodes from Ocean Pods. The podcast has tons of information and is definitely not a Commercial.
    Good point Carmie. I think i am going to order some pods from ocean pods to boost my tank populations. Can't hurt at any rate.
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    thanks for the help. i just noticed today i have stuff crawling around the fuge. yay. but not sure they are pods. they are about 1/16 in size and seem to crawl.

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    Oh really! That is wonderful.

    Unfortunately i had to dismantle mine. I took down the nano tank and moved everything into my 100 gallon. But when i dumped the rocks from the tube fuge they were covered with white sponges and strange critters. I don't have it hooked up anymore, but i might attach it to the sump of the 100, just for entertainment. It was working quite well on the nano though.
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    Serious,

    That sounds like pods! Sometimes you get so many they seem to cover the glass.
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    woo hoo I have my ecosystem going. I just had an idea. I was thinking of taking a SCWD and using it to feed the fuge and then swich to create a curent in the tank. It would be cool to put a fuge on either side of the tank and put the SCWD between them creating a alternating current from side to side. But the boss vitoed that idea because on of pipes would be visible. So Ill put 2 together and just put the other sid of the SCWD feeding the other side of the tank via flex hose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarelyseriousb View Post
    woo hoo I have my ecosystem going. I just had an idea. I was thinking of taking a SCWD and using it to feed the fuge and then swich to create a curent in the tank. It would be cool to put a fuge on either side of the tank and put the SCWD between them creating a alternating current from side to side. But the boss vitoed that idea because on of pipes would be visible. So Ill put 2 together and just put the other sid of the SCWD feeding the other side of the tank via flex hose.
    This sounds like a good idea. Please post some pix when you get it up and running.
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    ok will do. but I make no promises I am an aw full procrastinator. I need to find a reducing bard fitting from 5/8 to 1/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarelyseriousb View Post
    But the boss vitoed that idea because on of pipes would be visible. So Ill put 2 together and just put the other sid of the SCWD feeding the other side of the tank via flex hose.
    LOL!

    Would "the boss" be a spouse-like person or a fish?

    I dig your point though. I thought my boss was going to kill me when i siphoned 30 gallons of salt water on the living room floor!
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    lol the boss is the wife. like the old saying goes if mama aint happy aint nobody happy. lol . just kidding she is sweet. I guess we all have nice understanding spouses or we could never be in this expensive time consuming hobby.

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    I guess we all have nice understanding spouses or we could never be in this expensive time consuming hobby.
    This is very true. We need a "Reefer's Spouse Appreciation Day"
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    Hallmark would probably be happy to start it.
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    Itunes not downloading video

    Itunes has stopped downloading this video and a number of episodes. This video stopped at 114MB. IS there any other way of getting this video? I really want to see what this fuge looks like and how it works.

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    I think that there is a problem with the downloads. I thought it had been fixed a few weeks ago but enough people have said something about it today that I think it has broken.
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    i can not even attach it to an email and send it though ANY of my email accounts.
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    new instant video added to this thread
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    What about abs

    Is it safe to use ABS for this project. I know in the construction trade it is used almost interchangeably i just didn't know if the ABS would leach chemicals into the water. I built a 4" tube fuge out of ABS and have still not put it into use because i can't get complete info. One guy says yes, one guy says no, and so on and so on. oh and by the way way i am new to this forum but it is great, i have liked the podcasts and i look forward to seeing the new ones are downloaded!

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    welcome bud.

    I lifted this from a fellow countryman of yours, actually, same state.
    you might be related..lol

    Hi all,

    I'm new to this forum and thought I would share my experience to this subject. I'm a Civil Engineer and a Reefer. SCH 40 IS used in Potable Water systems. I design new buildings and onsite water systems with it every day. ABS does NOT have an antibacterial leaching agent in it. It is the number ONE material used for on-site sewer treatment systems (septic systems) in the US. WHY is this important? If your home is not connected to the sewer treatment plant you are disposing of the wastwater in your home in your own septic type treatment system.

    Just like a fish tank an onsite sewer septic system must allow anaerobic bacteria to devour the nitrates in a septic system and allow the water to leach and filter into the soil until it is purified and diposited back into the ground water where it is used again for potable water. ANY antibacterial agent would kill this process and your septic system would cease to function. Federal quidelines require ALL pipes and adhesives designed for those pipes used in NATURAL sewer and waste treatment to be completely inert for this reason.

    Why is ABS black and SCH 40 white? Amoung other things the pipes are color coded. You don't want a plumber making repairs in your home to accidentaly connect the sewer to the water system. Keep in mind these pipes are design for Human consumption and waste and color coded for ease in constrcution and maintenance. Even though we are using them in an aquatic environment, they are functioning in the same way and for the same purposes that they were designed.
    i hope that helps



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