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Old 05-08-2008, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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quiet return pumps?

Hey everyone I was wondering if anyone had some advice on some good return pumps for my 75gl that are not to loud I am currently running a blueline not to sure of the model since I bought it second hand. Its a great pump gives a awesome return even had to throttle it back but it is so loud.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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are you looking for internal or external ??
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am running a external now I have never use a internal one so don't know to much about them or how reliable they are but would consider switching if it is quieter.
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well it really depends on which one you want. i like the GenX external pumps and i like Mag drive internal pumps. the internals are quieter but most can not handle a high head loss rate.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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you should try putting the pump on a mouse pad or other sound dampening material, you could also insulate the pump with sound dampener...not sure how that would effect pump temp though.
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yeah I thought of that I put it on some cooler foam it helped a little I was also thinking about sound dampening material but think that might be a fire waiting to happen. I am thinking I will probably try a differant external maybe one not so powerful. Right now I have the throttle valve opened about 1/4 anymore and I get the water rising and dumping in the overflow. Whats a good return flow rate for a 75gl?
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depends on the overflow hole size, if it is a 1" (standard) hole then it will handle 600gph.
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yeah its one inch
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it will be able to handle UP TO 600gph. if there are 2 then 1200gph. most external pumps are rated for much higher than 600gph, but if there are 2 drain the 1200gph pumps will work just fine. i have a GenX PCX 40 rated for 1190gph powering my 125 with dual corner overflows.

if you only have 1 overflow ... i switch to something internal like a Mag7.
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yeah I have one corner overflow with one inch bulkheads
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yeah I thought of that I put it on some cooler foam it helped a little I was also thinking about sound dampening material but think that might be a fire waiting to happen. I am thinking I will probably try a differant external maybe one not so powerful. Right now I have the throttle valve opened about 1/4 anymore and I get the water rising and dumping in the overflow. Whats a good return flow rate for a 75gl?
there are automotive sound dampener that wont catch fire.
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Old 05-10-2008, 12:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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on the flow rate question we need more info:
Do you run a fuge? What size is it?
Do you have corals? Sps, or softies?
Do you use powerheads or a closed loop?
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a 20 gallon long fuge for corals right now I just have some zoos and some xenia and I am using powerheads for right now
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the one inch can ONLY handle up to 600gph. anything else needs to be made up with powerheads or a closed loop system.

bottom line is that you CAN NOT put more than 600gph through the overflow. anything more than that and you are going to overflow the tank.
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Just an idea, but I lined the inside of my stand with one of those foam eggcrate mattress toppers from Wal-Mart. Cut down on the noise outside the stand considerably, and only cost like $15.
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oh nice thats a awesome idea I am going to give that a try thanks if that still does not work I will just try another pump thats less powerful. Now when you say 600gph I will still need to take in account for the distance from the sump to the tank its about 3 feet so would I need a pump that pushes around 800gph?
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I have used a number of pumps over the years and there is only one I would consider quiet, in fact, it is dead silent. You literally have to touch them to tell if they are on. I used a Velosity T4 for over a year before switching to something more powerful. It is not a pressure rated pump like the T3 and is overkill for your situation, but the smaller versions would be perfect. Have a look at the T2. It should be more than enough to meet your needs.

I ran a Quiet One 4000HH in sump before I switched to a basement pump and I found it was prone to vibration. I have also run a large Panworld and it was extremely loud. Of course it was also a 1750GPH pump so it had an excuse. My current pump is a Gen-X Mak5. This is also a large and loud pump.
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