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Old 12-23-2007, 12:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking about that Vortech? Hope you don't have an acrylic tank

Are you thinking about picking that Vortech pump that everone has been raving about? You might want to read this thread if you have an acrylic tank.


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Old 12-23-2007, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not every one is having that issue. I think a lot of might have to do with the thickness of jnarowe's and the fact he cant use the spacers. It will be interesting to see how the whole thing plays out.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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True. But then maybe Eco-Tech should revise the specs for their pumps and say that these shouldn't be used on certain tank's thickness.

jnarowe cannot use the spacer due to the thickness of his tank. He also could not run the Vortech at 100% power without the temperature on the motor reaching 140F and more.

Give it time, these are new products and the more people use these on acrylic tanks, in time the more these kind of issues will come up.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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LOL what a surprise another RC argument,
There may be some good info over there but I can never seem to get through a thread.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I just read (part of) the RC thread. Man am I glad I don't post over there. Just another example of why TR is the best and most useful online reef forum.
Anyway, I'm no expert (unlike every single person posting on RC), but I have two VorTechs connected with their wireless controllers and the system has been working great - just as advertised. The tank is glass (210gal), but unlike the RC posts, the wireless connection works fine and the pulsing is set at about 7 seconds without any issues. The flow is insane. Just my $0.02. Jay
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My buddy has a Vortech and he doesn't have that problem... acrylic tank too!
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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wow, how many pages of posts....

I've heard nothing but good reviews on the vortechs and havent run into anyone having a problem, from the reading the specifications on the tank are a little on the light side anyhow. I think it's just a matter of operational environments being discovered and adjusted... Like the first guy to find out why you dont take bottles of beer up in an unpressurized airplane cockpit.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have 2 vortechs on a 75 aga. I did have a problem with one pump over heating and making excessive noise. I talked to the engineer at ecotech and described the problem. The pump was upgraded to the newer version and shipped on their dime.

I think problems will arise with a new product such as the vortech, but they showed me they will stand by there product.

I could'nt finish that thread either...you get a lot of endless arguing at r/c (I think that thread was 30+ pages long !)

That's why I'm here.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Like the first guy to find out why you dont take bottles of beer up in an unpressurized airplane cockpit.

arrr that was me, & it saved me bringing a bottle opener
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have the Tunze streams in my tank and I LOVE them....great flow!
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have two Vortechs recently moved to the back wall of my 110 tall. I had to throttle down to about 10-15% so my torches wouldn't blow away. I love the flow and no heat and I sleep much better at night knowing I have battery backup. Their customer service when I needed it was topnotch. Just my two bits.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have two Vortechs recently moved to the back wall of my 110 tall. I had to throttle down to about 10-15% so my torches wouldn't blow away. I love the flow and no heat and I sleep much better at night knowing I have battery backup. Their customer service when I needed it was topnotch. Just my two bits.
I also am very happy with my single Vortech (with wireless wave driver and battery backup). Produces enough broad flow around the tank to keep detritus suspended (and push the sand a bit), and I only have it on at maybe 30% on my 55g. I've had to apply epoxy putty under one frag mount (so far) to keep the Vortech from tipping it over. The "Reefcrest" mode randomizes the intensity somewhat, and the battery backup has already proven its use during two power outages.

As far as noise is concerned, once I aligned the wet and dry sides by looking through my tank, its been running extremely quiet. Only in "Pulse" mode can you hear the pump rev up and down, and barely at that.

At 30%, my Vortech doesn't produce much heat. At most, barely warm on the dry side.
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Right so you bought the pump to run at 30%? Kinda a waste IMO.
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Right so you bought the pump to run at 30%? Kinda a waste IMO.
Flame on dude.

I've got a 55g tank. Should I run it at 3000gph and have my DSB torn asunder?

I estimate it is at 1000g<->1200g right now, and my return is another 300gph. That is 22-28 times turnover of broad (non-laminar) flow in a largely non-sps tank, which is more than enough from what I've read.

The Vortech also transfers nearly zero heat to the tank, doesn't look like an eyesore, and has wave modes so current is randomized somewhat.

Sure I could have gone cheaper with a retrofit maxijet or two, but then I would have cords draping over my frameless, open-top tank - which somewhat defeats the purpose.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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[quote=rroselavy;69386]I also am very happy with my single Vortech (with wireless wave driver and battery backup). Produces enough broad flow around the tank to keep detritus suspended (and push the sand a bit), and I only have it on at maybe 30% on my 55g.

RRoselavy,

I had the same problem with the undertow and sand moving quite a bit...I turned the finger guard with the solid part facing the bottom. Problem solved.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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