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Old 01-19-2008, 05:42 PM   #26 (permalink)
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ok thanks, thats what ithought, but i wanted to check, and shoudl i keep in the filter media that is supposed to be between the bio balls and the tank?
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I don't use it in mine.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:02 PM   #28 (permalink)
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thanks, thats what i thought, what abou the filter media that i my filter has before where the bio balls are supposed to be, do i keep that in place or remove it?
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:21 PM   #30 (permalink)
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OK so i basically fill the wet dry filter up and put the live rock in, then just run it. but make sure i leave enough room for the overflow when the return is off. and other than the protein skimmer i shoudl be good filter wise. thats pretty amazing the that live rock can take care of all that. also how much live rock can i add when i fill my tank, i have read in some places that it sholdn't add too much at one time so i wanted to check to see what you guys thought
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Since you are just setting the tank up I would add all of the rock at one time.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Carmie, I think he means the LR in the bio-ball chamber. In that case the LR would not be complelely covered.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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You know how it is Dick, you see what you think.

Jay, if you use rock in the bioball chamber it needs to be totally submerged. In fact, I have caulerpa in my bioball chamber and the LR is on the bottom under the chamber and going over to the area where the pumps are. If you use in the bioball chamber you will have to be religions about top-off water so you don't expose the rock to the air and allow it to become a nitrate producer. Within that criteria you could add all of the rock you want to the sump or display at the same time since there are no fish in the tank.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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You know how it is Dick, you see what you think.
That's very true Carmie. And when I hear people talk about wet/dry filters and bio balls I think of the chambers holding the bio balls as being the wet/dry chamber meaning it has water trickling down through the bio balls. A filter such as this...




By removing the bio balls and replacing them with LR, there is no way the LR in the trickle area can be submerged. I used the largest version of the above trickle filter in my own system. Here is a picture of it for those who haven't seen my tank thread.



It shows clearly that I removed the bio balls and replaced them with LR that is not submerged.

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Once again thanks for the responses, i got some more questons for ya. For the wet dry filter, taking out the bio balls is what i am gonna do, so here is my question: a guy at one of my LFS said to fill the thing to just below the bio balls, is this the same for the live rock , or deos it need to be completely submerged? thanks again
You can see the filter water level is just below the trickle chamber which is the normal operating level. The LR above that level is not going to become a nitrate factory because of the slow flow of water through the LR which houses the anaerobic denitrifying bacteria deep within.

Now asneeze, does the above pictures resemble, in anyway, the wet/dry trickle that you are talking about??? Or do you have something different??? A picture of what you have would be most helpful.

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Old 01-20-2008, 01:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:17 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:05 AM   #37 (permalink)
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My filter looks like the one you have pictured with the bio balls in it.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:12 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I'd consider macro where the bioballs go and LR below that. The macro will reduce nitrites and serve as a pod nursery.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:22 PM   #39 (permalink)
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OK well i am jst waiting on my overflow box from life reef, i've been looking around and most people seem to think that that is one of the best out there. i placed the order today, but the site says they are out of stock for 2 weeks, but i would rather be patient and get the right equipment than wind up having more problems later.

My wet/dry filter has a grate that seperates the bio balls from the bottom chamber, how would i go about using macro there? another set p i saw at my LFS had a fuge elevated just above the sump, then pumped back up into the tank from the sump, seemed to me like it looked like a good set up and i could easily make one like it, but i wanted to get some opinions. i won't beable to add water untill my overflow arrives, so untill then i am still in the planning stage. thanks again!
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