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Old 01-16-2007, 08:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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help!! diatoms

I went to work today came back and notice that overnight I have had a huge algea outbreak in my tank brown spots over everything, and everything is 0 ammonia 0 nitrite and nitrate is this just part of having a newly cycled tank?
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yes, diatom blooms are a normal and expected even after your cycle finishes (or slightl before or after it finishes)

maintain normal maintenance. clean the glass, change the water, all the normal stuff, even flow it off the rocks into the water column so the skimmer can get them out (or even siphon them if you want)

in 3-6 weeks they will go away
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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IME a diatom bloom occurs just after the nitrogen cycle.
how long has your tank been up for?
How long ago did the nitrogen cycle balance out at 0?
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It finished its first cycle about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Do you think my PC's being on 12 hours a day would do it? I just got those last week and they are on a 12 hour cycle the actinics a half hour longer.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It has nothing to do with the lights... it's very normal. If your tank didn't go through the bloom it would be abnormal. It will work itself out without a cleanup crew or anything.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't think so. I agree with Rob that this is a "normal" stage for your tank. Fallow Robs advice and you'll be fine.
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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great thanks guys It's funny i have read about all of this stuff but when it finally happened I freaked out lol
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This is a good sign! I had those not too long ago my self.

Things I found that helped getting over it:

1. Cut back on regular lighting time and use Actinics mainly.
2. Use turkey baster to break up the algae growth.
3. Alter the flow to make sure everywhere is getting proper flow.


After a week of that, you can start adding time to the regular lighting.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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IME, the more you disrupt it, the longer it will take to dissipate since you keep restarting that part of the cycle.

clean your viewing panels, but let the rest work itself out.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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oops, sorry about that. I was thinking about red slime algae.

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Old 01-18-2007, 01:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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lol oh well thanks anyway Timanator. Thanks saxman I will be patient. Is 5 hermit crabs to little or just right for a 29gal?
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I usually recommend 1 per 10 gallons. But I actually don't use hermits at all. Can't have one member of the clean up crew eating the others. Put some larger shells in there and feed them directly if you see them out and about alot. It's not natural behaviour for a hermit to be visible. If you see them, it's out of necessity to calm the growl in their belly.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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2 days ago when I had my diatom outbreak I notice the hermits looked like they were in thier glory. I was going to get five more but I guess when the algea bloom goes away I will have a bunch of hungry hermits. I do want to get some snails though.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Be careful about mixing hermits and snails, I got so tired of having to get new snails I took all my hermits out and put them in my “display fuge”.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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wow I have been reading this everywhere, I am a little concerned, because I really love my hermits but the snails are very good algea eaters
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What kind of hermits do you have and what kind of snails?
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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mexican red-leg hermit and astrea conehead snails
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The reds are better than others. Don't let them get hungry and throw bigger shells in there. Now, the astrea, are they able to right themselves if they fall on their backs? This could be a problem if they can't for obvious reason. Snail a-la-cart for the hermit.
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