The Talkingreef Community
   

June POTM, Get your Vote in now!

Welcome to the The Talkingreef Community forums.

- Please consider Joining our community to get access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

- If you are new and want to check out the podcasts you can find a full list of FAQ's to get you started. The most recent shows are on the homepage of Talkingreef

Go Back   The Talkingreef Community > General Discussion > Nano-Reefs
Register FAQForum Rules Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

» Photo of The Month
» Talkingreef Live (TRL)
» Online Users: 51
0 members and 51 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 570, 05-23-2008 at 06:55 PM.
» Comment line

Powered by MyChingo
» Site Partners


Reefkeeping


Project DIBS


ReefPedia

» Sponsor
» Advertisement

Remove Advertisement

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-28-2007, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Southeastern Ohio
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
stang5_o2002 is on a distinguished road
16 GAL Rebuild - Advice\Suggestions Welcome

Well, I tried the bb thing for a while. It was great for about a month, then I started noticing my corals didnt seem as happy (softies) and they didnt open up as far as before. For some reason over the last few days i've started getting hair algae on a few spots here and there. Mostly on the skimmer PH. The glass has to be cleaned at least twice a day, and even that isnt enough. You can see in the pic how the tank looks. Sooo, i've decided to go back to DSB. I like the salt and pepper look of black and white sand, so i bought 4, 5lb bags of black and 3, 5 lb bags of white. (any feedback on this would be great before i start this project) I also bought a sheet of acrylic and some rigid tubing to build rock stands. Thats where the questions start coming in. For example, how deep should a DSB be in a 16gal bowfront? How far should the rocks be lifted off the sandbed? I've added a couple pics so if anyone has any suggestions or things i should change I would like to here them. I'll be doing this projectthis evening, so i havent started anything yet.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 100_0596.jpg (131.9 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 100_0595.jpg (129.6 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg 100_0593.jpg (126.7 KB, 0 views)
stang5_o2002 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-29-2007, 05:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
Grand Master Reefer
 
CarmieJo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 7,338
Thanks: 152
Thanked 115 Times in 112 Posts
CarmieJo is on a distinguished road
You want the sand to be a minimum of 4" deep. I would start with at least 5" because it will compact. Is the grain size the same for both colors? Otherwise you will end up with layers instead of a mixture.
__________________
Carmie

Only disasters happen fast!



54 Corner Tank
Carmie's Cube


Show people you appreciate their advice! Click the icon under their name to add to their reputation.
CarmieJo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 09:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Southeastern Ohio
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
stang5_o2002 is on a distinguished road
Yes, the grain size is exactly the same. Its soaking in buckets right now and i think it looks great all mixed together.

How far off the sand should i have my rocks? Im gonna make stands for them. I was thinking maybe an inch or a little less, but i wanted to ask around to make sure.

Thanks!
stang5_o2002 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 11:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
Grand Master Reefer
 
CarmieJo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 7,338
Thanks: 152
Thanked 115 Times in 112 Posts
CarmieJo is on a distinguished road
I don't have my rock on stands, but I will add them the next time I re-aquascape, but I seem to remember that it only needs to be a little bit. The idea is to allow the water to circulate beneath the rocks and help to prevent dead spots.
__________________
Carmie

Only disasters happen fast!



54 Corner Tank
Carmie's Cube


Show people you appreciate their advice! Click the icon under their name to add to their reputation.
CarmieJo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 04:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
Curious Reefer
 
EddieP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
EddieP is on a distinguished road
Here's my two cents on the idea of raising your rock: The idea originally (I believe) came from the Jaubert "Moncaco" style of reefkeeping where you would have a deep sand bed with a plenum but leaving most of the sandbed exposed. The idea behind the system was to have organisms in the sandbed "pump" nutrients down into the deep sandbed where there was little oxygen and anaerobic bacteria would break down these wastes (NO3) into Nitrogen gas. So it was necessary to have a large part of the sandbed exposed in order for it to work properly.

If the reason you're wanting to lift up your rock is to do this, then an inch or two would be fine. If you're doing this for extra circulation around your rock then I recommend you just be creative about stacking your rock. I have the exact same tank and what I did was to create lots of caves and space between the rocks on the lower levels. Obviously you want it to be stable so big rocks go on the bottom. It's actually recommended to place your rockwork first then pour your sand in around the rock because this would stabilize the rockwork and prevent shifting after it's full of water.

The point here is that you actually WANT less circulation in some areas. You want there to be a gradient of oxygen levels because it's in these areas where de nitrification takes place. It's a delicate balance for sure. Besides, who wants to look at egg crate and tubing? lol. Keep good circulation throughout the tank and behind the rock and you'll be fine.

Hope this helps.
EddieP is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Amphibious' 135 gal Reef Amphibious Member Tank Projects 499 07-03-2008 11:33 PM
Crazy George's 90 gal upgrade log (image intense) george1098 Member Tank Projects 125 05-12-2008 11:18 AM
24 Gal Nano Cube Stevej72 Member Tank Projects 75 01-15-2007 09:02 PM
Tangs in 165 gal. CoachD Tangs 16 11-01-2006 10:26 AM
Taryn's First Reef Tank (60 gal) Taryn Member Tank Projects 6 10-02-2006 10:23 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Ad Management by RedTyger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91