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Old 01-19-2007, 02:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If I use nasty stinky LR I don't use anything else.... If it is fresh smelling LR that is already cycled I throw some shrimp in there just to make sure. I have since found a place to buy pure ammonia and will be using that in the future.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:25 PM   #27 (permalink)
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how stinky are we talking here??????
& more to the point, where do you dredge your rocks from to have them lovely & rotton. i dont like to see edditions to slimy, populations are replicated with the availible food source, having to much gangy material to process can indeed make for longer cooking times. & the populations will starve till another consistance source presents itself.. i love how theres different strokes for different folks
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:59 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Stinky as in it smells when you hold it to your nose.... not stinky as in it smells of the whole room. I get it from the LFS and buy it about day 3 after arrival when all the goop has gone into their system.

But I should add I started using pure ammonia instead.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Hey All the Nano Cube 14 arrived... It looks good ... Good Light Set up... But I am having a problem the salt can’t get it to 2.02 at 75F... any ideas?
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:20 PM   #30 (permalink)
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the salt should be at a SG of 1.026 or 35ppt
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Old 01-20-2007, 07:57 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I ment 1.023 ,I got it i Hope it works.... and it will stay that way ...
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:19 PM   #32 (permalink)
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so you are able to get it to 1.023 or you cant get it higher than 1.023
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I got it to 1.026 at 82F
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:42 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I got it to 1.026 at 82F
perfect..
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:42 AM   #35 (permalink)
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So whats the next step other then looking after the PH, ammonia, and so on...
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:03 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Has anyone heard or tried adding a piece of shrimp from the local grocery store or a very small piece of fish, I have not but this is a recomended way to speed cycle the tank from some of the guy's at aquamains in gso
Yep, this works to help give you an initial blast of NH4 which serves to jump start your cycle
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:16 AM   #37 (permalink)
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So whats the next step other then looking after the PH, ammonia, and so on...
dude, i still got to ask~~~~ whats the rush? exciting times this is, & although youv'e chosen the path of least resistance on the wallet, its by no means easier caring for a nano, infact it can be a site more harder, cause you've really got to be on the ball. water parameters can swing very quickly in a nano.
I would suggest you pace yourself with a 3month goal....right now your saying BS, no way!!! but to be totally honest, its the only way your going to get something stable enough to survive long term.

So lets get a running diary happening here, grab a blank book & start jotting down some notes. eg.

Purchased tank: 19.01.07.
Dimensions:
Gal/Lts:
Equiptment List :
Component clean with 1:5 parts vinagar water. Wiped Light shield.
1st SW batch to 1.026 @82F (1.026=20gal X__cups of S/Mix.)

you get the idea! Makes referencing easy, & at any given stage you can basicly give a running detail of your notes to anyone that knows what they are doing in this hobby & they will be able to advise correctly.

OK, so, you've added your liquids@ your desired temp range.
Now come the cooking part. Bacterially speaking, the tank is deviod. From the conversations below i think you grasp this idea by now, so how are you going to procced given your options.

Once youve decided how your going to kick start the cycle, even though its temping ,honestly, i suggest you dont try speeding up the process if you have the will power. ( i mean come on, im looking at a blank tank here dude!) we all experience this thought, & its hard to transfer experience into the mind of the green. I'd suggest you use this cooking time to probe for info in 4 ways,
1) use reference from reliable sources such as randy holmes farley.
2) Probe the mind of someone you see caring for a beautifully presented tank.
3) Use "nano tanks" as the meta tag in the search engines & see what others are doing as much as you can.
4) Ask target questions in the forum & forget about being spoon feed all the way, cause in the end you have to become the master winthin your own right.

I hope this helps alittle. We will always be here to answer your questions & more to the point, guide you towards the more knowledgable & top notch literature on the subject.
In any interactions with peoples opinions take any given advice as a whole, if the majority belive in the principles, usually its sound enough to use yourself.

My biggest advice to you and anyone, is to learn the "why" behind any given topic.
Like now, your biggest issue is going to be bactera. Learning the who, what, when, where, will give you insight, learning the why will allow you to trully understand it!
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:46 AM   #38 (permalink)
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great write up Veriann, stated perfectly...

but you forgot one thing...
Sgt_USMC, make sure you come back to TR for help with anything you need, and make sure you leverage the podcast shows as they are full of the "why's" that veriann speaks of
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Old 01-21-2007, 05:43 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Cool

Will Do and thank you... I will be bringing my Water to the LFS to test...
And I will start a note book for my tank. And thank you for the help.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:54 AM   #40 (permalink)
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yes of course rob, i forgot to be patriotic. sorry bud!
Robs got the best info source on the net, well hell! its got to be good, or else we all wouldn't call "here" home!

Sargent, id also suggest you watch the LFS when they test, No cowboy testing with a quick rinse with the testing vials. If your not in a possition to test yourself, take a dilluted jar of vinagar water with your testing sample, & ask them to shake the vials with it. Testing shouldn't cost you anything, but you dont want your test to be tainted with the last residue.
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