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Old 04-29-2006, 02:34 AM   #101 (permalink)
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just a newbie question.

HA and BA. hair algae and b--- algae?
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Old 04-29-2006, 03:58 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Sorry, Bubble Algae
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:44 PM   #103 (permalink)
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there's bubble algae? that's something new. what does it look like? any pics?
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Old 04-29-2006, 05:16 PM   #104 (permalink)
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My 2 new Seio 1100's and my Neptune Systems Aqua Controller Jr. has been installed (almost). The seio 1100's are in what I believe is their final locations I moved them 3 times in the last 24 hours and I think I like them where they currently are, my livestock is thankful that I made up my mind. I have great flow now, the surface if the water is cranking!

I installed one on my glass overflow flowing along the back of the tank at about 12" below the waterline. I installed the other perpendicular to the first on the overflow flowing at an angle toward the glass.

Here is a pic looking through the glass on the right side (the location of both Seio's).



As you can see, I have left my Aquaclear 70's in the tank as well. In this picture, you can see the other AC70.



I also installed the reef controller with the exception of mounting the unit. I just want to be sure I have everything done before I mount it. Here is a photo:



Reef Controller Description of Operation

First and foremost, I would like to say that this controller was very easy to setup and program I was very impressed with how well it has worked so far.

The AquaController JR. (ACJR) came with the following:
  • Main Control unit with Back lit Display
  • PH Probe
  • Temp Probe
  • Power Strip
  • Instructions
The unit is able to control up to 8 devices by turning them on and off via the different outlets on the power strip. But is does so much more than just turning them on and off. Here is a photo of the installed power strip (Model DC8).




The DC8 is connected to the controller over a phone cable and each outlet is numbered 1-8. In addition to the DC 8, the temp probe and PH connect and I installed them into the sump.

I connected the ACJR to my PC via a serial cable, but you can program the whole unit from the front of the unit if you choose. Once connected to the PC I associated each outlet to a piece of equipment on my tank. here is the list.

Actinic Lighting - 1
Fluorescent Lighting - 2
Sump Light - 3
AquaClear Powerhead (left side) - 4
AquaClear Powerhead (right side) - 5
Heater No. 1 - 6
LED moonlights - 7
OPEN - 8

Here is where everything gets really nerdy and cool! I decided that I wanted my reef to be from the Indo-Pacific Region. I went online and read several articles on water temperate and flow in the region including this really well written one on variable conditions in a reef environment. I couldn't find conclusive temperature data for FIJI so I decided to use the temperatures at Pago Pago, American Samoa as a guide because it is close. I also compensated by dropping the temps 2 degrees across the board. I then entered these values into the season chart on the reef controller. Here is a screen shot of the season table section of the software.



You can also see that I gathered the sunrise and sunset schedules as well as the lunar schedules. The "new Moon" entry allows the controller to know the day of the month of the New Moon. Thus it varies the intensity of the moon lights on the reef.

I then built my program. Here is how it looks:

If Sun 000/000 Then LT1 ON
If Sun 060/-045 Then LT2 ON
If Sun 000/000 Then LT3 OFF
If Temp < RT+-0.5 Then HET ON
If Temp > RT+0.0 Then HET OFF
RND 010/015 ON/OFF Then PM1 ON
If Time > 03:00 Then PM2 ON
If Time > 03:15 Then PM2 OFF
If Time > 15:00 Then PM2 ON
If Time > 15:15 Then PM2 OFF
If Feed cycle Then PM1 OFF
If Feed cycle Then PM2 OFF
If Moon 000/000 Then MOO ON

Lighting control
The first line (If Sun 000/000 Then LT1 ON ) tells the controller to look at the sun table and turn the Actnic light (Outlet 1) ON at sunrise and off at sunset.

The second Line (If Sun 060/-045 Then LT2 ON) turns the main lights on 60 minutes after sunrise and off 45 minutes before sunset.

The third line (If Sun 000/000 Then LT3 OFF) truns the sump light on at sunset and off at sunrise.

The last line (If Moon 000/000 Then MOO ON ) controls the LED's based on the moon schedule.

Temperature Control
The fourth and fifth lines (If Temp < RT+-0.5 Then HET ON
If Temp > RT+0.0 Then HET OFF) tells the controller to look at the temp schedule for the region and if the temp is .5 below the set, turn it on and if it is at the set, turn it off.

Powerhead Control
Line 6 (RND 010/015 ON/OFF Then PM1 ON)
picks a random time between 1 and 10 minutes and turns the powerhead on for a random time between 1 and 15 minutes.

Line 7- 10 (If Time > 03:00 Then PM2 ON
If Time > 03:15 Then PM2 OFF
If Time > 15:00 Then PM2 ON
If Time > 15:15 Then PM2 OFF) turns the right powerhead on for 15 minutes mid day and 15 minutes mid night. I thought this unit (located low and in the back of the tank ) would stir up and debris on the bottom.

Lines 11-12 (If Feed cycle Then PM1 OFF
If Feed cycle Then PM2 OFF) tell the controller to turn off pumps 1 and 2 when it is feeding time, which is manually initiated at the face of the unit. I will probable incorporate the seios in this feature in the future.

In addition to the control, the unit logs PH and temp. If you connect it to the PC it will also chart these items, which may be beneficial in troubleshooting water quality issues.

I have more work to do with programming, I think there may be a change or two, but all in all I love the unit. Oh yeah, one other thing. I plan to have it available to me on the web within 3 months, that way i can check all of the data and control items via the web. How fun!

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Old 04-29-2006, 05:18 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Mine looked like this, but is was small. It's the green stuff, not the air bubbles.

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Old 04-29-2006, 07:14 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Wildeone - love the techy stuff! Great controlling system and I love how you've documented everything. Can't wait to see how your tank will fluorish with such a realistic reef setting.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:03 AM   #107 (permalink)
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wow. ditto with the aqua controller. thanks for posting the pic with the bubble algae. see now i know. how much was the aqua controller? i love that you can connect it to your pc and control it that way. IS IT MAC COMPATITABLE? that would be ideal.

oh yea and do you like your seio's? tanks looking great.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:31 AM   #108 (permalink)
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I am not sure if the AC JR is MAC compatible or not. You can check at Neptune Systems . The unit with the Backlit Display (A MUST), the standard PH probe, temp probe and the outlet strip was about $350. The main reason I wanted it was not so much tocontrol stuff *a definate plus), but I want to be able to setup alarms to notifiy me of temp and power related issues, and I wanted to be able to check up on the web because I am out of town on long weekends alot.

Eventually, the unit will be hooked up to trip my home alarm system in a silent manner, and then the signal will be sent to Brooklyn, NY and a live dispatcher will contact me on my cell phone to notify me of any alarm I might have. Now if I could only get them to clean my skimmer.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:39 AM   #109 (permalink)
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I cannot believe that I need to have 1 snail per gallon and one hermit per gallon. Those are the totals that have been recommended to me by others. I stopped by the LFS and got 10 more hermits, 2 turbos and 1 Trochus for a total of 15 hermits, 4 Trochus and 4 turbos. MY TANK IS SPARKLING! I love it. All I have to do is watch and they do all the work. My hair algae is all but gone (A lil on top a powerhead) and I don't see any bubble at all anymore.

I tested the water and everything is right inline with what it should be. I think I should maybe get some Cheato for my fuge at some point but I don't exactly know where to get it. My LFS looked at me like I just urinated in there tanks when I asked them if they had any. But they are clueless anyway. I heard them tell a couple that they could start a SW tank for about $200. I told them I have 5 hermit crabs in my SW tank and had 10 times that amount in it. You should have seen them bolt. .

Anyway, all is going well. I suppose I should wait at least 30 days before fish...right?
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:58 AM   #110 (permalink)
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haha $200 bucks. if it cost $200 i would already have like 10 tanks. and with the silent alarm thing..... no comment (obsession, haha jk)
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Anyway, all is going well. I suppose I should wait at least 30 days before fish...right?
I like your well, thoughout planning. Looking great!

what kind of fish are you planning on getting? Why don't you start a little list of fish that you'd like to get. Some fish should ONLY be put into a very mature tank, due to their feeding habits and requirements (such as mandarins). So, write down a list and we'll tell you what we think! :-)
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yes, waiting for your cycle is a great time to plan your next steps.. adn believe me, planning now will reduce the "darn, i shouldnt have done that" later on...n
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:37 PM   #113 (permalink)
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i know the mandarin is on my list.
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If I was Scott with a HA problem, I would grab me a dozen Trochus snails and send them on their way.
I will look into getting some Trochus snails, will be a while unless I order online...or buy some while at SWU. our LFS had a massive crash in their coral tanks, same ones they keep any inverts in. Will be another week before they are ready to order anything to put in the tanks. Guess the PH started climbing and wouldn't stop.
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