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Note: While searching the Forums at Reef Central,e I came across a link to Talkingreef. I logged on and really liked the format and the fact that the podcasts allowed me to listen while at work (don't tell the boss). Originally I started posting my journal on Reef Central, but I decided that I want to post and continue it here and make this my home base for all things reef related.

Now I dont have any problem telling anyone that I am an absolute newbie to this hobby, but I am a fast learner and an all around tinkerer. I love to tweek on things and solve issues, thats what drew me to this hobby. All of the information and items that I have used thus far, I gained knowledge of online. I am sure, as with anything online, I will find my share of misinformation, but my hope is to achieve a successful reef system, get smarter and of course help the next guy.

So without hesitation here begins my journey:

The Desire
I started wanting a FOWLR tank several years ago. Finances finally picked up, a new LFS moved close to work and I stopped by during lunch and BAM, I decided to get one.

I started researching online all about the hobby. After reading a long thread (50+ pages) on another site I decided a Nano Cube was for me. I then read about the cracking problem, the difficulty of mods, so I searched Ebay for a used setup in my area (local pickup only auctions don't draw a crowd). I was lucky enough to find a 65G that was only 5 months old, the previous owner upgraded to a 100G. It came with the tank, Current USA Orbit HQ lights, and a stand.

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And here is a photo of the unit after I got it home:



Leak Test
I filled it up with H2O and did a 48 hour leak test. No leaks were present, so I drained the unit and tried to figure out what to do next.

More to follow...
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Try hosting your pics here on TR since RC doesn't allow those pics to be linked here

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Wildeone, first WELCOME! And congrats on being the 500th member!

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Note: Originally I started posting my journal on Reef Central, but I decided that I want to post and continue it here and make this my home base for all things reef related.

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What next...

I did more research online and found out that most folks have a sump included in their setup. The sump is used to add total water volume to your system, thus diluting swings in ammonia, nitrites and other chemicals in the water. In addition it makes a great place to stash all of the ugly stuff needed to sustain life in a reef, like heaters, pumps, filtration, etc. I am sure there are other reasons to have a sump, if you know of a couple more, please post it.

Most sumps include a refugium, a place to put algae and other living things you don't want in you main tank, but would like to have benefit the water quality. I am not an expert (yet) on sumps or refugiums, and I am sure someone here can list (and I hope they do) all of the benefits and drawbacks. I decided that the pros I read about outweighed the cons, so I decided to include one in my setup.


Refugium / Sump
After reading for about a week on the principals of sumps and refugiums, and being a DIY type of guy, I drew up plans for my refugium, and decided it would go under the tank in the stand. I purchased a 20G long tank (30x12x12) which fit nicely below. I had no idea of how hard it would be to decide what type of setup I wanted. It amazed me that there were so many different ways to setup a tank and there were about three times as many opinions of which setup is best. I finally decided to construct my own using the aforementioned tank and 1/8" glass from the local hardware (not the best idea, read on).

I researched what gear I would need to put in the refugium / sump and found out that I had no idea what a protein skimmer was. I read that some people had them, and some people didn't. The main benefit is that they remove proteins before nitrifying bacteria break them down into nitrates. With less waste to process, the bacteria consume less oxygen. Higher oxygen levels and low nitrate levels mean better health for your aquarium life. I had enough in my budget to afford a basic skimmer, and after looking around I settled on a Turbofloter 1000.

Pumps are another item that everyone has an opinion on. How much flow, what type, what brand? I followed some advice I found on Melev's Reef. I designed my setup with 3 times to five times the volume of the display running through the sump. I decided I would need a minimum of 325 GPH (before head loss ) to achieve this. The only issue is, I didn't figure out the head loss thing until after I purchased a Eheim 1250 pump. With my head loss I would be lucky to get 200 GPH through it.

I read both good and bad things about Rio pumps, and since I am on a budget I chose the start with them. I could always justify an upgrade in 6 months. I purchased a 2100 to go with my skimmer and a 2500 to circulate my sump. I needed to heat my water, so I ordered (2) 250 Watt heaters. This way if one fails I have a backup.

I got measurements online for the skimmer and pumps and drew up my refugium plans. I would use three nine inch tall baffles, one inch apart with the middle baffle one inch higher then the other two.
I was told these are to remove micro bubbles that come out of the skimmer, and since I have never seen a skimmer work, I just have to believe it. These measurements came from Melev's Reef ]Melev's Reef[/url] on the sump page. The design I worked up had the refugium on the left the sump on the right and the return to the tank in the middle. The divider that separated the refugium from the return was 10", giving the refugium a little more space, because I read to make it as large as I could.


1/8" glass and a bad measurement

I went to the local hardware and picked up 4 pieces of 1/8" glass, I had it made 11-7/8 wide. I got home and attempted to install the glass dividers. My measurements were too close and I had to use a little force to get the glass in. The first piece finally went in and I used silicone to seal around it, but it was a tight fit. I went to the hardware, kicking myself along the way for making my measurements too tight, and got a glass cutter tool. I attempted to shave 1/8" off of the glass, and actually succeeded, although it was not easy. I installed the other panes of glass and sealed them up. I also included a little box for the hose to fit into and put some LR.

The next day I filled the sump and tested for leaks, none present so we were good to go (so I thought).




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Gwen_o_lyn - Thanks for the info, I tried to save a litte time and as usual that leads to trouble! I got PhotoBucket running and I am correcting now.

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My stuff arrives in the mail

I received my skimmer, Rio Pump for the skimmer and my Eheim 1250 for circulation. I quickly realized that my measuring skills were again lacking, as there is no way that the skimmer will fit into the skimmer section of my refugium. It is lacking a good 3". It was a terrible feeling, thinking I had done my research, and then realizing that the footprint of the skimmer was the skimmer only, not the pump as well.

I decided to remove the three baffles and move them closer to the refugium end. I had set my skimmer in the skimmer section to get a measurement and when I went to pull it out, the top fell off, hit the rim of the tank and the glass broke right at the first baffle, the baffle I forced into place, I guess the stress was too much. ARRGHHH I was mad.

So, I guess I didn't need to move the baffles, I needed a new tank. My wife was very pleased at these new developments. She already had a funny look in her eye staring at all of this equipment laying in the living room. I went to the LFS the next day and got another tank and decided to try again.

I went with the same setup, refugium on the left, skimmer right and return in the middle. This time I got 1/4" glass and I had it cut to 11-3/4", no need to make it so tight, the silicone does all the work.

My refugium was much smaller, only 8x12, but I really had no other choice due to space. I leak tested it and no leaks once again. I love silicone!

Here is a photo of the latest Refugium.

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How to get the water from the display to the sump.

When I got my 65G, it had no holes in it. After reading about the various types of external overflows and the benefits of internal overflows, I chose to have my tank drilled. The decision was an easy one for me, but getting it drilled would prove to be a tougher task.

I wanted to put 1" bulkheads into the back of the tank as the bottom was tempered. I chose to go with 2 overflow lines and one return. I called every glass shop in town and they all told me the same thing, "never done that before." A LFS said they would do it...for $50 a hole. I could order the tank new with 2 holes and an internal box for $190.

I couldn't decide what to do, I had already broke a 20G tank, my wife would kill me if I broke the 65. I like to live life on the edge, so I read all about drilling glass online. I ordered my bits form Ebay and they arrived from Hong Kong in about a week.

I followed the guidelines set by others online, drilling slow, using water, not forcing it and taping the backside. After about 10 minutes I had my first of three holes, and after an hour I was completely finished. You will notice I used a drill guide or jig ( I really have no idea what it is called, I borrowed it from work). It helped me to keep the bit on track so it didn't skip across the glass. I held it down with plumbers putty.



That's my dad drilling it, I figured if it broke I could tell my wife he did it!



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Close up of a hole.

Next, to overflow box or not to overflow box...
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