Apartment Lobby Aquarium

[gwen_o_lyn]

How about a mini pub for Steve too??

<---- look at Steve now!! Looks like a happy camper!!

[stevefranks]

Hi Guys,

If you like lazyboys, you will like the private cinema for the residents:

[stevefranks]

Hi everyone,

I thought I would post my fish list I would like to stock the tank with, and in a seperate post a conversation Rob and I had on MSN (If that is not good Rob, please remove this post!)

OPTIMA (CAMBRIDGE) LTD FISH LIST

Purple Queen Anthias x1

Yellow Skunk Anthias x1

Fork Tail Blenny x1

Black Percula Clown x2

Blue Damsel x1

Gregory Damsel x1

Royal Dottyback x1

Yellow Foxface x1

Naso Lipstick Tang x1

Long Head Unicorn x1

5 Striped Wrasse x1

Multicolour Doctor x1

Redlip Cleaner Doctor x1

Lieutenant Surgeon x1

Powder Blue Surgeon x1

Sabae Clown x2

ANEMONE/INVERT/CORAL LIST

SINGAPORE

Sticky Anemone x1

Blue Anemone x1

Carpet Anemone x 1

Clown Fish Anemone x1

Green Button x1

Lemnalia Cauliflower x1

Anemone Crab x1

Blue Crab x1

Feather Star x1

Flower Mushroom Luminous x1

Red Mushroom x1

Button Polyp x1

Glove Polyp x1

Long Polyp x1

Red Tailed Shrimp x1

Black Sponge x1

Blue Sponge x1

Purple Sponge x1

Xenia Pumping x1

Xenia Sea Hand x1

Xenia White x1

Super Polyp x1

Blue Starfish x1

Red Starfish x1

NON SINGAPORE

Acropora cervicornis x1
Acropora digitata x1
Montipora x1
Goniopora x1
Brain Coral (Diploria) x1

[stevefranks]

Conversation about this list between Rob and I. Thanks Rob, it really cleared up alot of questions and things I didn't know!

ImaGeek says:
and your not going to add them all at once right...lol
Stephen Franks says:
I can buy minimum 1 box at a time
ImaGeek says:
I would recommend that.. you can't add all this stuff at once..
ImaGeek says:
lets see what help i can give..

first thing... black percula... the onyx clowns are almost always ocellaris, not percula, not that is big deal, but just fyi..
ImaGeek says:
now for the damsels... unless you are dead set on them, you might want to rethink them
ImaGeek says:
the tank is big so it shouldn't be a huge deal. but they are agressive... and the blue damsel (aka blue devil) is know for digging holes under your rocks..
ImaGeek says:
I am not familiar with the gregory damsel so i will only generalize that damsels tend to be agressive...
ImaGeek says:
most reefers regret starting with them as they have to remove them..
ImaGeek says:
ok.. moving on...
ImaGeek says:
foxface.. Great choice, they are wonderful fish, you will love them.. look for the metallic one if you can.. Foxface metallic vs Foxface Lo.. the metallic ones are just beautiful...
ImaGeek says:
the long head unicorn, is the unicorn tang?
Stephen Franks says:
yes
Stephen Franks says:
thats right
ImaGeek says:
ok...
ImaGeek says:
need to be careful with the tangs... you can't keep tangs with the same body shape in the same tank unless it's HUGE (huge=at least 500-600 gallons)
Stephen Franks says:
ok I have loads of tangs on the list!
ImaGeek says:
yeah... the amount is not what's concerning me, as much as the specifics..
ImaGeek says:
the naso and the unicorn have very similar body shapes.. they will likely not get along..
ImaGeek says:
the powder blue is an extremely sensitive tang, i would not recommend that one unless you are a very experienced hobbyist
ImaGeek says:
and even if you were, they should not go into a new tank at all...
ImaGeek says:
for the tangs, i would wait for the tank to mature... give it a few months. and follow with the naso, lieutenant, maybe a yellow tang, regal tang, Achilles tang...
ImaGeek says:
the wrasses are good, as are the other clowns
ImaGeek says:
everything else looks good, so in short.. reconsider the damsels.. and the tangs..
Stephen Franks says:
I am going to post the user/password for the importers site to see what ideas tr users have
Stephen Franks says:
they have loads of oddballs etc!
ImaGeek says:
another idea would be a bunch of chromis..
Stephen Franks says:
they look nice
ImaGeek says:
the blue and green chromis are docile, and like to school.. they look awesome in large tanks
ImaGeek says:
but that said, you have a starter list.. you can start with the clowns, wrasses anthias..
ImaGeek says:
but don't go beyond that.. let your tank catch up...
ImaGeek says:
after a month or so, revisit your fish list
ImaGeek says:
any other questions there, or shall i move on the the invert list??

Stephen Franks says:
cool
ImaGeek says:
ok.. inverts
ImaGeek says:
first thing i noticed is i didn't really see a "clean up crew"
ImaGeek says:
basic snail, hermits, stars, etc..
Stephen Franks says:
i put 2 crabs, 2 stars and a shrimp?
ImaGeek says:
ok.. i see them...
ImaGeek says:
you need lots more...lol
Stephen Franks says:
I wasn't sure of stocking levels, so i put 1
Stephen Franks says:
!!
ImaGeek says:
start with snails... you want to look as the nassarius snails
ImaGeek says:
and turbos and such...
ImaGeek says:
you want about 1 per gallon
ImaGeek says:
lol.. so you need lots more...
ImaGeek says:
hermits are the same way.. look at blue legged, red legged, scarlets...
ImaGeek says:
same thing about 1 per gallon
Stephen Franks says:
jeez 300?
ImaGeek says:
lol.. yea
ImaGeek says:
you can also look at the tiger tail cucumbers...
Stephen Franks says:
minus live rock
ImaGeek says:
no.. you are looking at about 300 each..
ImaGeek says:
if you are getting wholesale prices, they shouldn't be that expensive
ImaGeek says:
that said, i would refrain from the other items on your list...
Stephen Franks says:
ok, cool
ImaGeek says:
look at serpent stars also...
ImaGeek says:
and don't get the blue and red stars...
ImaGeek says:
these are linkias (i bet) and they are considered difficult to keep...
ImaGeek says:
they are VERY sensitive to water conditions, and often die in the first few days due to improper acclimation..
ImaGeek says:
they require a stable established tank
Stephen Franks says:
ok, good to hear
ImaGeek says:
now the anemones...
ImaGeek says:
what's a sticky anemone, and a blue anemone
ImaGeek says:
i'm assuming they are carpets...
Stephen Franks says:
hold on
Stephen Franks says:
Sticky + Stoicanthas gigas
Stephen Franks says:
= sorry
Stephen Franks says:
both are
ImaGeek says:
ok.. they are carpets..
ImaGeek says:
carpets are also quite difficult, require established tank.. and such..
ImaGeek says:
they have high lighting needs, but i think you would meet that
ImaGeek says:
i would look at bubble tips to start with
ImaGeek says:
they are more tolerant, and easier to keep
ImaGeek says:
they other thing is personally, i wouldn't have 4 of them...
ImaGeek says:
get one per clown pair (assuming you want them to host in the anemones)
ImaGeek says:
you can get more.. but they tend to get big, and they are very dominant... you will not be able to put any other corals, or anything anywhere near them as they will sting stuff

[Rob]

no, thats fine, but if you get a minute, could you go through it and remove and non relevant info, and maybe fix my spelling errors>?...lol

[stevefranks]

Edited spelling mistakes!

Kind of you to let me post that...I thought it would be nice for people to see whats happening?

[Rob]

great thanks..

[Scott]

Originally Posted by stevefranks

Hi Guys,

If you like lazyboys, you will like the private cinema for the residents:

Ok, I'm rolling up my tounge and closing my mouth.....gotta get some bath towels for all the drool though.

That is some apartment building!!!

[gwen_o_lyn]

Here are my thoughts - same as what Rob said pretty much.

I would skip the damsels, be cautious when it comes to tangs, and I would not get a carpet anemone. On my tank tour last weekend, we saw a tank with 2 huge carpet anemones and they had eaten a few fish including a blue tang he had for 3 years. He wasn't happy about that.

And do get at least 1 snail and 1 hermit crab per gallon. I just ordered 85 more hermits for my 72gal and I must have at least 100 hermits in there now!! he he.. I love my hermit crabs!! Don't worry, I feed them well.

Be careful with the sponges too- they usually grow on the bottom of rocks and don't like much light. And if they die they can really poison your tank. They are more difficult to keep.

Consider a serpent star or 2 or 3, and cleaner shrimp too

[CarmieJo]

Originally Posted by Scott

Oops...forgot about that one. that's the deluxe lazyboy chair....with the built in fridge and snack bar.

...and a port & speakers for your iPod!

[Scott]

Oh yeah..filled with TR podcasts. Hmm...wonder how Rob's video podcasts would look on that screen. LOL

[gwen_o_lyn]

oooh that'd be fun!!

[wildeone]

This is the first time I looked at this thread...nice job. Maybe when my wife kicks me out for spending all my time on my tank project I can jump a plane across the puddle and rent a unit from you! Just curious, how much rock did you plan to have in the tank? I know some died on you...shame....

[wildeone]

Originally Posted by gwen_o_lyn

Here are my thoughts - same as what Rob said pretty much.


And do get at least 1 snail and 1 hermit crab per gallon. I just ordered 85 more hermits for my 72gal and I must have at least 100 hermits in there now!! he he.. I love my hermit crabs!! Don't worry, I feed them well.

Thats a lot of hermits and snails! I read that theory on Tampa Bay Saltwaters Site, but I thought they were just trying to sell livestock. Is it working out well for you?

[gwen_o_lyn]

Works fine for me.

When I can get hermits for about 30 cents each, why not stock up on em. LFS wants about $3 each.