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Old 01-15-2008, 11:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My 65 Progress

I decided to make a log of the progress on my 65 reef. So far I have stained the stand, setup my DIY sump, added a skimmer, glass canopy, 60lbs aragonite sand and ~20lbs of base rock.

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20 G Sump with refugium
Coralife Super Skimmer 125
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The future stock list so far is
2-Ocellaris Clowns
Dwarf Angel (Most likely Flame Angel)
Royal Gramma
McCosker's Flasher or Carpenter's Wrasse
Soft Corals
I'm still unsure about the cleanup crew but would like some peppermint shrimp. I also ordered a powercompact 2x96W fixture for lighting. Hopefully will begin to add liverock soon. Now that the sand has settled I have removed the filter floss from the sump.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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just a word of caution ... a flame angel MIGHT nip at soft coral polyps.

the setup is looking good though.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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just a word of caution ... a flame angel MIGHT nip at soft coral polyps.

the setup is looking good though.
I know , are there other dwarf angels that are less likely to do so?
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not really, any angel is a 50-50 shot.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I know , are there other dwarf angels that are less likely to do so?
One of my favorite Dwarf Angels is the Atlantic Dwarf. I have never had a problem with them nipping at corals. One of the "secrets" is to feed your fish often (at least three times daily) and feed a variety of foods.



Here he is eating Nori from the veggie clip. Many of the larger dwarfs from the Pacific will pick at corals. Like lReef lKeeper said, it's a 50/50 deal, maybe less. Give the Atlantic Dwarf a try, I think you'll have success.

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I too have an Atlantic dwarf, aka cherub angel, aka pygmy angel, (Centropyge argi) and it has not bothered my corals.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'm definetly going to consider the cherub angel.
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they are right on the flame angels but in there defense, I have had one in my tank for over a year and he is a model citezin of the tank. allways grazing on algae and I have ALOT of stuff for him to munch on in the 400 gallon tank. But then again mine might be an exception.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a couple of questions. I wanna set up a quarantine tank and was wondering if a 10g would be big enough for stock list. Are there any fish on my list that would find the 10g unsuitable for 2 weeks? Im planning on attaining all but the pair of clowns around 3 weeks apart, so one fish in the qt at a time. Also my lighting fixture was supposed to arrive today but instead wont be here until next week. Does live rock with coraline growth on it have lighting needs? I wanted to start setting up the aquascape.
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everything looks like it will be fine in a 10g for a couple of weeks. just remember that if you add something new to the QT while there is anything in there ... they BOTH go back to day 1.

the coralline needs light to survive, but the rock should be fine.
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Thanks for the quick response, do you think ill see coraline dyeoff in a week without lighting?
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probably, but i would try to add a couple of strip lights or a shop light or something of that nature to the place that you will be holding it (tank, tubs, etc.). that will likely minimize the die off.
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Maybe. But, cramped quarters and lack of a feeling of security will hamper your quarantine control. quarantine is not just to isolate a specimen but to condition them back into health from capture, shipping, handling stress through several layers of collectors, trans-shippers, wholesalers, LFSs to you. In my humble opinion, I think a better choice would be a 29 gal or 40 breeder.

You must realize, in most cases, you are taking them from the vastness of a coral reef into a bucket, into cramped holding facility, bagged, shipped to transhipper's cramped facility, bagged again, shipped to American wholesalers cramped facility, bagged again, shipped to your LFSs cramped facility. All the while NOT BEING FED. I don't care what size aquarium the LFS puts them into, compared to the reef it is a closet, even if it's 300 gallons!!! Then you want to quarantine them in a 10 gal??? If you are an experienced expert, MAYBE. I'd go with something bigger like I mentioned above. It doesn't have to be fancy. Give them various sizes of PVC pipe and or fittings to hide in.

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By-the-way, I forgot 2 to 3 weeks is probably not enough time in QT. And listen to what lReef lKeeper said about adding something to the QT tank. Personally, I would not add another specimen to the QT. Each critter needs it own quiet time to recover.

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