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Old 12-29-2007, 10:25 AM   #26 (permalink)
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pvtdonut is an unknown quantity at this point
actually its the kit that came w. my tank. its from marineland...and ill uploaad the pics now while i eat breakfast...lol
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:13 AM   #27 (permalink)
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ok. heres the moment you all been waiting for....(im sure.....) lol. heres some pics. starting with the very first ones to most recent.....

heres the flooring. the gf is quite handy...lol



the trim of the floor.. very time consuming and tedious work. lol



the stand w/ tank and sump..gf made the sump for me... it works well. =]



heres some of the sump that u can actually see whn u open the cabinet door...its a 15g



and heres the tank as it is now.



i need to get a heater pretty soon. the temp in there is 63* lol

lemme know what everyone thinks.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:22 AM   #28 (permalink)
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these are the lil' ones that are gonna go in there.

my snowflake,


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this is wherre they are now....hopefully only for another couple months tho.... =]
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Your GF is very handy! The floor is beautiful and the tank looks nice. I DEFINITELY recommend a heater!

Can you post a picture of the return plumbing and the siphon break?
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:54 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow! You're burn'n and churn'n. Things look great. Lucky you that you have help with your project. Floor looks very nice and is water spill friendly. Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see updates.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:02 AM   #31 (permalink)
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i REALLY hate to say this, but i REALLY need to ...

that tank is going to be way to small for those puffers !! they will get very big in a fairly short period of time. unless you are getting another new tank (bigger) i would suggest trading them in or giving them away (to someone with a suitable tank).

everything else looks great though.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:38 AM   #32 (permalink)
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lol, down bobby....down!

He might be fattening them up for an exclusive japanese dish & they wont be there long anyways!!! LOL, jk.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Just Kidding" class="inlineimg" /> , he did mentioned they will only be there a few months
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:27 AM   #33 (permalink)
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lol v. they def still got time before they get too big for this tank. i have them in my 16g atm. and when they are sleeping at night, i have trouble finding em...they blend well w/ my rockwork...lol and as for the return like, i got the best pic that i could....

this is behind the overflow box.



and obviously...in front.. lol :P



if u look close enough under where the white pvc ends, u can see the water that is being shot out of the break.

ill throw my cam in underwater case and let it go swimming...maybe i can get some better pics of it from underwater
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:34 AM   #34 (permalink)
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yea...the pics of the puffers...those are in my 16 gallon...not the tank that im setting up...lol the one im setting up is a 65....i am gonna keep them in the 16 until i get the tank cycled...which is what im workin on now..lol
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #35 (permalink)
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the 29 is what i am saying is to small for them. i am not trying to offend anyone or bash anyone for anything, just looking out for the well being of the fish. a small tank will likely cause stress to them and stress can cause all kinds of other unwanted problems with the tank. these fish can reach lengths of 10" - 11" in captivity (i have seen them) ...

The Porcupine Puffer - Diodon nicthemerus

this one is at a friends house and is over 12" long ... granted it is an old fish, but ...



that is all i am going to say about this.
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yea...its not a 29...if u read it....its a 65 gallon....lol
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:55 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Did I miss something? The thread is about a 29 gallon...right?

In either case, I believe a 65 will eventually be too crowded for two puffers and an eel. It may take a little while, but it will happen. JMO though.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:05 PM   #38 (permalink)
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thats what i thought too poppin !!
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OK, I can't see the siphon break but I really don't see why you would need one on the return. The water will only siphon back into the sump until it gets to the edge of the return. Just make sure your sump is able to handle the overflow and you will be fine. I have lines on my sump that show where it should be filled to both when the return is running and off.
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well..with the sump, when i had my pump off....i was going to get a cap for the pvc pipe so that i could stop water from coming into the sump..and then unplug my pump, stopping the water from overflowing my tank.

and yea, the thread WAS about a 29...but a couple days later i decided to get a 65 instead...sorry about the confusion...lol ill find a way to edit the post....if i can....
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:39 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Ok Carmie and pvtdonut...here is why the siphon break is on the return.

The return line is designed mostly, to be a closed pipe, that is, the water is pumped from the pump, straight to the outlet(s). The problem is that water has this nasty habit of following the path of least resistance and it likes itself, so it will follow itself down...see also, siphon. The easiest way to stop it is to interrupt the flow, either by plugging it off, or allowing it to suck in some air.

The manufacturer places a small hole in the 90 degree elbow of the return to act as a break for the siphon. They place it there because its almost the highest point in the system. Technically, the highest point is the top of the elbow, but the water would shoot up and out of the tank and you would be mad, therefore, they point it down, If they didn't do this, and you had those return hoses pointed down, the siphon continue until the water level drained down to the end of them to the point it finally sucked air. Those hoses are long and this could be MANY gallons of water. With that little hole in the elbow (above the water line) the siphon can never form... unless it gets plugged for some reason.

The cap idea is ok, until the power goes out and your not home to cover the pipe. The better thing to do is make sure your sump can handle the extra water contained in the pipes. I would find the maximum point the sump can be filled normally, yet still hold the extra, and mark it so I know the working limit.
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