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Old 08-27-2007, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alex's 65 gallon reef tank, aka my peice of the ocean

I am setting up a 65 gallon display with a 35 gallon sump/refug. I have been planning this tank for what seem like forever and I am finally getting a little closer so I thought I would set up a tank journal.

I started my research a couple of years ago and discovered Talking Reef while I was living in Australia at the begining of a year spent there. I can already say I would have been lost without it.

I have done a good ammont of travel in my life and have always had a facination with the ocean. Which is the main drive for the tank. After living in Thailand and Australia I got used to being close to the ocean... and well, now, being back in Canada that part of my life is missing. So this is my way to keep it.

I have been back from Aus for about 6 months now and I have accumulated most of the stuff I need. Now I guess it is time to dive in and see how it goes.

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Old 08-27-2007, 10:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I will be posting pictures of the point I am at soon...

I have had some live/base rock curing for the last couple of weeks in a big food grade container with heat, light and flow. It had sat out of water but moist for about two months before I bought it, which is why I called it live/base.

It will be going in the tank once I get my sand for my sand bed.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sounds nice. how about pictures? always nice to see a tank in its stages. are you going to do fish only or ??
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello Alex and to TR. This is the best time to start a tank journal. Too many of us *raises hand* wait a few months and then try to go back and fill in the blanks.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hello and welcome, always nice to have another Alex hanging around

I just started my tank about 4 weeks ago, i'll be excited to see how you set yours up. And i second the request for pictures, i love visual aids!
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey alex. Where abouts is kingston ontario??? Maybe if your close enough i could help u out with some frags once ur tanks up

Welcome to TR and hope all goes smoothly

BTW, what are u planning to do with the tank??? Reef, FO, FOLR??
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Here are some pictures...

1. Tank in the stand (65 gal).

2. Sump/Refug (35 gal) with the sump on the right and refug on the left.

I put in 4 baffles to make sure I don't get any micro bubbles going back up to the tank and put the refug on the left so I can control the amount flow.

Right now I have a 950 gph internal pump but I am considering adding another pump if I feel I need more flow in the future. So by having the refug on the left it won't be affected.

3. This is a little shelf that I made to set some of my rocks up on and get some flow at the back of the tank.

4. A post I made that I will use to set rocks around using a bit of fishing line to try and create some interesting shape (it actually sits vertical in real life).
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Tim,
It is going to be a reef tank. As for corals I am going to start mostly with soft corals and depending on how it goes work towards hard corals in the future.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey Small Fry,
It would be good to get some frags from you... I was checking out your journal and your tank looks awesome. But Kingston is pretty far from Windsor - about 2 hours east of Toronto on the 401. If I am ever up your way I might have to take up on that though.
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I know this is probably going to open a can of worms but I figured I might as well see what people thought...

I have always had the plan of going with a DSB after hearing the benefits of it and now I am trying to buy the substrate for my tank.

For aesthetics, I would like something that is about medium grain size.

I am afraid to go with something that is too fine, because I have heard a lot of people taking out fine sand beds because it becomes so compacted that it eventually becomes problematic.

On the other hand a really grainy substrate doesn't seem like it will work as well for filtration purposes.

At this point I am thinking about going with all Caribsea seafloor reef sand. Or 80% Caribsea seafloor reef sand and 20% Caribsea crushed coral

Any opinions???
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Check out theses articles on DSBs.

DeepSandBeds

http://www.ronshimek.com/Deep%20Sand%20Beds.htm

I ended up using Caribsea sugar fine based on the info, but my DSB has only been in for a few months, so I can't really speak to how it will eventually mature.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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BTW, the clouding cleared up in a week or so.

It did take a couple months before the sand clumped some and filtered out the finer stuff from the top layer before I could run my full circulation in the tank without stirring things up.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I use sugar fine sand. My DSB has shrunk by about .5" over 20 months or so. I think that some of this may be compaction but aragonite also disolves slowly to buffer your tank. I would start with 5-5.5" if I was doing it again. I am going to add another 50# which should plump it back up. I would not mix the 2 types of substrate.
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Thanks NaClFinatic, that first article was actually really helpful!
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Thanks for the advise CarmieJo. I was thinking of a 5" sand bed in the display and maybe a bit deeper in the refug. I think I am going to go with the Caribsea seafloor reef sand, it will be bigger - 1 to 2mm but I think it will be good for what I am looking for.
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Sounds good. I don't think that grain size matters a lot just so is not so big as to become a detritus trap.

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I have now added my substrate, which was a total of 160 pounds of Caribsea