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Old 03-07-2006, 03:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Well here are some pics of the tank with the LR & base rock. I used tie straps to hold the spape of the rock & then applied epoxy. I removed the tie strap once the epoxy has cured. The LR are the ones on the left & right side of the tank. The Base rock is the one in the center.







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Old 03-07-2006, 03:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
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looking great John...
cant wait to see it stocked.....
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:59 PM   #28 (permalink)
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the top shelf on the base center rock will set up some interesting landscaping that you can do with your corals and inverts.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah now it's a waiting game :-( , but slow is better when it comes to marine tanks. When I was doing the jigsaw puzzle with the rocks I was trying to get some caves/caverns & a good base for future corals. Plus the base rocks I got had some interestingholes, & shapes. Looks like I achieved what I wanted. I gotta drop a raw shrimp in there to start my ammonia cycle.... more to come.
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:46 PM   #30 (permalink)
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no need for a shrimp if you have LR- that will start a cycle on its own

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Old 03-07-2006, 10:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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no need for a shrimp if you have LR- that will start a cycle on its own

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i disagree.. but to each there own...
the live rock will eventually start it, but i find that you can "start" the process faster (and naturally) using the shrimp.

is it required, no.. can it start it faster yes...
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't agree with forcing nature to hurry. There will be die-off on the LR that will start the process. Let nature do its thing.

How is it natural if you are making it faster?
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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look at it this way..
the cycle will naturally start if there is decomposition to produce ammonia.
the ammonia will be produced by dead tissue and/or organisms
does it matter if its from a RAW dead shrimp or from the LR???

not on effectiveness no, the will both achieve the same goal.

but on bio-load build up, and initial phase start it will..

see, using the shrimp is totally natural, and since it will provide alot more ammonia, than cured LR, your tank will be prepped for a higher initial bio-load.. but not drastically higher, but you may run into less algae and cyano issues (not scientifically proven though)...

point being is there is that the shrimp method is 100% natural, has many potential positive benefits (while some may be anecdotal, i cant prove that either way). is just as effective if not more than using regular cured LR (uncured would be different)..

why not do it?

as far as forcing nature, your not... you are feeding bacteria.. if you feed them more they grow more.. this is not "forcing" you are "allowing" the bacteria to feed on more, and reproduce more..
if you see the shrimp method as "forcing" than you are also "forcing" using LR, if you add cured live rock, you are forcing the growth of bacteria. if you are using uncured LR, you are "forcing" it even more.. probably more than even the shrimp method

again.. there is nothing wrong with either way.. and i dont think either way is right or wrong.. i do not mean to be confrontation, just want to express my opinion.. and thats all this is..
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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How about droping some amonia in there, or some use vodka, but I'd rather drink vodka that use it in my tank..lol
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or you could just pee in the tank...lmao.. i know its funny, but will accomplish the same thing..

lol.. but yes, some people have used vodka, and regular household ammonia, but i have not.. (and i haven't pee'd in my tank either.. )
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
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or you could just pee in the tank...lmao
now thats .....

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i have pee'd in my tank
lmao!! ha ha

ok I know it was a typo, but still funny!!
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lmao.. yes it was a typo.. (and i fixed it...)

i have heard people talk about it, and have "heard" that someone had tried it.. but can confirm it..

in theory it would work great.. but there something about it...
like i dont think i would ever be able to reach in after knowing that...lol
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