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Old 08-09-2006, 02:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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MAKING A REFUGIUM OR SUMP i need help =/

hi there everyone i i have a 20 gallon nano i got everything bio wheel filter,coralife skimmer,stealth heater everything but im trying to build a refugium out of a plastic tub it looks crappy really crappy with only 2 baffles.

<------------------------ heres what it looked like before now its empty it would really help if i got some tips on my crappy made refugium like what pump to get im really ona budget right now not much money so yeah..
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to TR!
Sorry I can't help, but I'm sure someone will join in.

You prolly won't need the biowheel filter.
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Before you work on your fuge, dump your bio wheel.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the link is a link to windones tank he explains in there how to estimate the return pump and has alot of other cool facts also...
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hey thanks for the comments =D but im not using my bio wheel once im done with refugium i was wondering if a viaqua pump was good ima get the 480 which pumps 6 feet and around 400gph once im done wit this project ima use biological filteration i was also wondering does that really clean my water and make it clear?
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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once im done wit this project ima use biological filteration i was also wondering does that really clean my water and make it clear?
Yes, but a lot depends on you and how you take care of the tank as a whole.

What books do you have about reef keeping???

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to tell you the truth, i don't know about the sturdiness of that container you have to take into account everything thats going in there, (im assuming you want LR, sand and Macro algae??) Thats alot of weight and it almost looks like that container is already starting to bend without anything in it. It may be more beneficial to get a container that is alot thicker than that one.

OR if your intent is to use that one, which i would do with the baffle already in it, you could build a word structure on the outside of the container, that will fit the container perfectly. This could take alot of the stress off of the container and put it on the wood structure itself.

But if this is not an ideal direction to go on, just start off fresh with a brand new THICK container.

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ah forgot to mention, Welcome to TR

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hey guys thanks im not reading any books right now i use google and i have 12 pages of notes in my journal i might get a bigger container but is THE VIAAQUA pumps any good they don't use any oil so yeah and is 2 baffles enough?
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hey guys thanks im not reading any books right now i use google and i have 12 pages of notes in my journal i might get a bigger container but is THE VIAAQUA pumps any good they don't use any oil so yeah and is 2 baffles enough?
don't know about the pump, but the baffles are based on how many section you want to have, beit a section for LR, another for macro algae etc... if oyu only want 3 sections, 2 is fine.

In my opinion there is no distinct guideline to the blueprint of a sump or fuge, and like the person making the system, each sump/fuge is unique. So if you feel you'd like another section for this, and another one for that, go for it.

of course, thats just me
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hey guys thanks im not reading any books right now i use google and i have 12 pages of notes in my journal
That's what I thought. We're happy to answer your questions and we're glad you are researching information on google however much basic information is available in books and they're less time consuming than searching through google's many thousands of hits per subject.

I recommend, "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Robert Fenner, "The Reef Aquarium" by Julian Sprung and Charles Delbeck, "The New Marine Aquarium" by Michael Paletta, "Reef Invertebrates" by Anthony Calfo and Robert Fenner and "Natural Reef Aquariums" by John Tullick. Any one of these books will have the information you need to get started in a concise format, easy and fun to read and always at your finger tips for reference.

Good books are not expensive! They are an investment well worth the money spent and time to read. They will save you hundreds of dollars in the long run.

I own all five of the above and many more and I've been in the hobby 59 years. My point being there's far too much information needed for one brain to hold and recall when needed. I'll bet the very people your asking questions of here have a library of marine aquarium related books. The best investment you can make in this hobby is starting a library.

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I'll bet the very people your asking questions of here have a library of marine aquarium related books.
very true, to give you an idea i've been into this hobby for about six or so months, and have a collection of about 30 books, each one of them still useful to me (i do like to read). And those are general SW books, i have about 30 more species specific books, which are probably my favorite, cuz i can look up some info on one species instead of going through a book not based on it.

But yes, like amp said BOOKS, BOOKS, AND MORE BOOKS :P
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haha thank your everyone u guys been a good help to mosted of my questions thanks everyone =D ive been in the fish hobbie for about 1 year and a half i mean mostly 1 year is the freshwater i spawned convicts and guppies and raise cichilds like jack dempseys and african cichilds i took care of those very easily and i was good at it but now im trying to conquer saltwater lol i have a coralife needle wheel skimmer with rio pump,10g wisper pump,red hdrometer/thermometer,stealth heater bio-wheel filter i won't need soon once i made my refugium 20g tank some live rock thats dead now but can still be renewed. i research about 3 hours a day and sometimes if i have some freetime i look at new products but my freind introduce me to this site because he said its very helpful and IT HAS been my first day signing on this was 3 days ago and already i learned so much but i would like to learn about what is a refugium and sump and is the chemical cycle any good for saltwater and are 2clownfish ,1 firefish or gobie,1 biocolor blenny,1 cleanershrimp, and some snails a good combo for my future tank ima restart again can i get some tips from anyone? =D
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