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Old 04-08-2006, 02:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Marine S.A.T. and GHA removal

Hi Rob,
I was curious about your battle with GHA in the past and if you can explain in detail how you were able to combat this problem using Marine S.A.T. and getting rid of this algae from the rocks. I started using Marine S.A.T., a phosban reactor and changed my lights recently and noticed the algae dying off. My problem is getting rid of the algae without doing damage to the corals that are attached to the rock. You see, I have two large pieces of live rock that my corals are attached to and I would hate to take out the rocks and start scrubbing while inflicting harm to my babies. This stuff is difficult to siphon out. The only other solution I have is to get a cleanup crew large enough to tackle the remaining algae and hope for the best but will that be enough?
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Old 04-08-2006, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ralph,
Where did you get your marine S.A.T.? Is that what it's called? I tired asking my LFS & he just gave me a blank look..lol
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Old 04-08-2006, 02:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey DJ,
My LFS had them for 20.00 for the 32 oz. size. They had one bottle left at the time. If you want I can call them to see if they still have it and ship one out to you.
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I tired asking my LFS & he just gave me a blank look..lol
LOL! I got that look when I asked for a phosban reactor! The guy looked at me like I was doing something with nuclear power! I love it!
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well, i could probably write pages on this...
but i wont.. i have water changes to do..

i used the marine SAT twice, and both times it seemed to help. its all beneficial, so even if it wasn't the reason there is no harm.. its not a chemical, its a bacteria culture

again, without writing pages here is what you can do.
1. start dosing with the Marine S.A.T as instructed.
2. after week 2, get yourself a cheap toothbrush, and a siphon hose.
3. attach the toothbrush to the end of the siphon hose with rubberbands.
4. start the siphon from the hose
5. now with the siphon going, start using the toothbrush on the hair algae.
6. as you slowly scrub it off, the hose will suck it out of the tank..

now this will help you remove it, but the goal is to keep it out. so make sure you follow filtration guidelines, and keep you tank free of excess nutrients.
make sure your water source is good, feed less often, reduce photoperiod (if you can). all that fun stuff..

and if you have any question, just let us know..
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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And if you write a book on this, I want the first bound copy with an autograph!!!
Thanks so much for that tip with the toothrush! That is perfect for me and my current situation. I will keep everyone posted on how it's going. I owe Gwen some pix but I'm afraid to post some with the tank looking like the way it does.
Have fun with the water changes today and remember to check your Ph and salinity level!!
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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lol.. well the water is heating up now...

as far as the book goes, who needs to write a book.. i do podcasts..
and you can have them.. for free..

make sure you photograph your progress.. everyones tank goes through good and bad, but to be able to show progress is a great thing. and to have pictures of it is awesome..
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Ralph,
No worries. I don't need it rightnow, since I don't have any HA problems, but it's always handy to have one. if you could direct me to a site or some place that would sell it online.
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey John,
Here you go...
http://www.aquatictech.com/chemicals.html
Try and contact them first, see if they have it.
Don't get it on ebay cause I tried to get in touch with the guy who sells it on there and he never emailed back.

Rob,
I will take some before and after shots so I can see how it worked and post them for everyone to see. Thanks again!

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Thx Ralph!
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In using the Marine SAT, does it kill the algae? If you still have to use a toothbrush and scrub the rocks then what exactly is it that the SAT is doing?

I have some and am somewhat reticent about using it because I try to stay away from additives, but I am at my wits end as all my rocks are basically covered with HA and I can't remove them.

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Old 08-01-2006, 01:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well, this stuff, is not exactly an additive, its a live bacteria culture. which means its going to be slower and less harsh than an additive or chemical.

the way ti works is that this bacteria will actually out compete the GHA for food, causing it to slowly starve. if left alone, you will see the GHA turn lighter in color.

the best method is to, while using the product, do what you can to manually remove the GHA, the use of the product should retard the growth of whats remaining, preventing it from spreading, and then slowly kill off whatever you cant get to by hand
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Wow, the toothbrush idea is pretty cool. I wish I'd have known that when I had the hair alage problem.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Update11/29/06:
I am happy to say that my tank is 95% free of this menace called GHA! Everything looks great and clean. It took a lot of work but it was so worth the time and effort I put into it. All of the advice given to me was very useful too. I am going to start adding more corals soon and post some pix for all to see.
I will also post the routine I went through so others can learn from it.
Yay!!
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Good news Ralph. I'm looking forward to the pix.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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awesome ralph, thanks for the update, i await the photos as well..
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