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Old 10-15-2007, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've got ich can any one help me

i just purchased a tang on saturday and noticed this morning THAT I'VE GOT ICH IN MY TANK WHAT CAN I DO. I Have corals, cleaner shrimp and pestal shrimp and fish How can i get rid of it. I heard garlic in the tank works what do you think. Please get back to me.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi reefmaster and to TR.

The only foolproof way to handle ich it to pull all of the fish out of your tank and put them in a hospital tank. Treat the hospital tank with copper. You can also elevate the temperature and lower the SpG. You will have to let your display tank lie fallow for 4-6 weeks to make sure the ich lifecycle is broken. Ich can't live on inverts so you do not have remove them. Here are a couple of links with information about ich.
Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part I by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part II by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if I elevate the temperate in my tank without removing my fish will it help at all. I have tiny spots flowing in my tank is that ich too. What temp do you think i should put it
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The only foolproof way to handle ich it to pull all of the fish out of your tank and put them in a hospital tank. Treat the hospital tank with copper. You can also elevate the temperature and lower the SpG. You will have to let your display tank lie fallow for 4-6 weeks. To make sure the ich lifecycle is broken. Ich can't live on inverts so you do not have remove them. Here are a couple of links with information about ich.
Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part I by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part II by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
you HAVE to remove the fish to be sure the Ich is gone. no if's, ands, or buts about it. i would do exactly what Carmie has suggested.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Increasing the temp in your display tank will not solve the problem. A higher temperature speeds up the lifecycle of the ich parasite not kills it. If there are still fish in the tank there is a host and the cycle will perpetuate.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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those chinese long handled back scratches help me. oh wrong itch!

the others have you covered! Cover yourself, a full length body suit rubber, or a QT tank, ether way it'll........... *oh no its...rob - im melting, im melting............faint oz transmission lost*
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You do NOT want to treat your display tank with copper or anything else. It's deadly to inverts and difficult to remove. A powerful U/V filter might wipe it out in one cycle, but no guarantees your fish will live through it. Carmie's advice is the most straightforward route.
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Reefmaster -

Just a quick note to let you know you can survive this. It happened to me on my 240 gallon tank. I had a heater die, but it's temp display still showed 78 degrees. I discovered it a few days too late, and even though I QT every living thing I put into my tank (except my arm) all the fish still came down with ich (severe temp swings can cause stress, stress can lead to an ich outbreak). I let my tank run fallow for 5 weeks, while an insane amount of fish lived in a 46 gallon bowfront tank. (The fish load was so high I had to do 50% water changes daily!)

Bottom line: ich happens - it sucks - we learn - we and our fish live happily ever after.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also, Oodinium and nastier parasites can appear to be ich. It's always nice to know what you are up against!
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have tiny spots flowing in my tank is that ich too.
No, those are not ich. It could be air bubbles, particulate material, copepods, or something else, but it is not ich.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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thank you but i just found out it was copepods
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Just to clarify, copepods are good!
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here is an option that worked for me, but I wouldn't recommend it because it goes against most trusted leaders in the reef field. It 100% definitely worked for me. At the time, I only had soft corals in my tank, and I did not have any STONY corals whatsoever! ALL fish recovered 100% due to this treatment. It was not from luck, immunity, or whatever. My tang is now 2 & a half years old, but was near death at the time Almost all of my fish had it at the time, and all recovered that were alive at the start of the treatment. I know there are solutions that work 100% of the time, unfortunately, this is not one of them.

1) I installed a UV light. (it has since been removed)
2) I used "Reef Safe" Kick-Ich. (quoting from marine depot's site) It is a water treatment for the control of ich (a.k.a. "whitespot disease") in marine and freshwater aquaria. It has been scientifically formulated to eliminate the free swimming, infectious stage of the ich life cycle while being safe for all freshwater and marine aquaria. Kick-Ich has a long shelf life at room temperature and is supplied in easy to use, self-dosing bottles. Safe for all fish, corals, invertebrates and macro algae, as well as the facultative anaerobes and nitrifying bacteria essential to biologic filtration.
3) I talked directly with the owner & used a higher dosage that compensated for me running a skimmer for 12 hours a day. i also DOSED TWICE after a 2 week break.
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Just to clarify, copepods are good!
Never heard of them, good band?
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