The Talkingreef Community
   

Its time to get in your pics for the October POTM contest

Go Back   The Talkingreef Community > Equipment > Lighting

» Photo of The Month
» Talkingreef Live (TRL)
» Online Users: 51
0 members and 51 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 570, 05-23-2008 at 06:55 PM.
» Comment line

Powered by MyChingo
» Sponsor
» Advertisement

Remove Advertisement

View Poll Results: What lights should I use? (90gallon)
4x54W T5 (10 hrs) + 2x54W T5 (12 hrs) 1 16.67%
4x54W T5 (10 hrs) + 4x54W T5 (12 hrs) 0 0%
2x150W MH (8 hrs) + 2x54W T5 (12 hrs) 0 0%
2x175W MH (7 hrs) + 2x54W T5 (12 hrs) 2 33.33%
2x250W MH (5 hrs) + 2x54W T5 (12 hrs) 3 50.00%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2007, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Master Reefer
 
NaClFinatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 587
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
NaClFinatic is on a distinguished road
What lights shoudl I use? T5 vs MH and photo period

I am still debating about my lighting... I have a 90gallon tank wiht a full hood so whatever kind of lighting it will be retrofit. I will have a 4+" DSB so the tank will end up about 19-20" deep with lights 4-7" above. I plan to have mostly LPS and SPS but wouldn't mind being careful of placement with any specimens of particular high light needs. I'm not really interested in clams. Also any lighting I think I will put an acrylic shield below the lights for easy cleaning and to keep to minimum the condensation on them.

Full T5
I was thinking about starting with 6 T5 (4' 54W each). If I do 6 T5 there would be room to upgrade to 2 more at some later point. I'm guessing my actinic period (2 bulbs) would be 12 hours and a 10 hour period for the other 4 bulbs (one actinic and three daylight). I could always upgrade from the t5 to MH at some point later on and just sell a couple of the T5 kits (I'd need to keep one for actnic anyway).

MH plus T5 actinic
However I am now considering MH and T5 for actinic. I'm not sure about the HQI or single ended option but don't see any particular reason to go either way. I do understand the difference. I may lean toward a single ended if I do the acrylic shield anyway. I am also not sure about the wattage. If I do 150W I think I would run them for 8 hours. If I did 250W I would prefer to limit the daylight period to 5 hours (though I might stagger the two lights slightly). 175W would be 7 hours I guess. I am a little concerned about the heat from MH bulbs, especially the higer wattage. My tank room could easily hit 75F in the summer afternoon and may occasional approach 80F. Are a couple little fans enough to cool these lights/tank in a full hood (open in rear)? I do enjoy the shimmer but that is not enough to get me to spend more on electricity. Is 2x250W for 5 hours enough for SPS?

Please share you thoughts and comments on the different bulb choices and what might be best for my setup. My primary goal is adequate lighting but close second is economy. That includes bulb replacement and elecricity usage. But I will invest a little more at startup for a better solution. Of course all that said keep in mind LEDs could soon be more reasonably priced and I could be replacing with those in 1-3 years. Since that seems to be adequate light and definitely economical to run.

Thanks!
NaClFinatic is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 04-24-2007, 10:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master Reefer
 
NaClFinatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 587
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
NaClFinatic is on a distinguished road
Also forgot to mention...

In a MH world, I'm leaning toward electronic ballast for efficiancy, size, and heat. Though I did see some relatively compact magnetic ballasts also; do these end up needing a fan on them or something? I want to mount all ballasts to the back of my canopy.

My MH would be 10k.

Also I am interested in hearing about any bulbs, ballasts, or retrofit kits that you have experience and an opinion on.

Last edited by NaClFinatic; 04-26-2007 at 11:53 AM.
NaClFinatic is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2007, 08:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
Grand Master Reefer
 
gwen_o_lyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NW GA
Posts: 2,824
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
gwen_o_lyn is on a distinguished road
I'm in the same boat as you trying to navigate through the wonderful world of lighting your reef tank.

I voted for 250's since I plan to put them in my new setup. I also want the electronic ballast and double ended. I will prolly be mounting pendants in my canopy.

Look into getting Icecaps for the ballasts- I always have read great things about them.
For bulbs, XM comes immediately to mind, but I'm not 100% sure on that yet.
Definitely have a few fans in your canopy. All lights going in a canopy need a fan in my opinion. I have no plans of using a chiller so I will blow the AC out of this house if I have too.

I will be tagging along here
__________________
Gwen - 2008 Atlanta Reef Club Board
MACNA XX Committee
125g RR AGA "The Simple Reef Tank"
gwen_o_lyn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master Reefer
 
NaClFinatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 587
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
NaClFinatic is on a distinguished road
Right now I am leaning toward the 175W MH. It is almost no more cost than 6 T5 and the regular magnetic ballast is much cheaper than eletronic one.

I guess my biggest issue is woudl the reduced daylight period be adequate with the 250s? That route could actually save money because while the bulbs are a litte more, they also would last longer on a shorter period.

I have no plans for a chiller either, but I also do not plan to crank the AC either. I am a real energy miser. One thing that helps me is the tank is in the basement so not quite as hot as the rest of the house.

I think 175 shoudl be fine to start out at least. I'll also see what kind of heat those make and if i really think bigger would work unde rthe canopy without making too much heat. I could always upgrade from the 175 and use them on an extra tank or sell them or somehting.
NaClFinatic is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 03:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
Grand Master Reefer
 
fat walrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: held captive on a BORG cube
Posts: 2,765
Thanks: 1
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
fat walrus is on a distinguished road
Go for the halide.
__________________
USA
fat walrus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2007, 07:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
TR ADMIN / PAINTBALLER
 
lReef lKeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Louisville, Ky
Posts: 2,897
Thanks: 31
Thanked 115 Times in 107 Posts
lReef lKeeper will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to lReef lKeeper Send a message via MSN to lReef lKeeper Send a message via Skype™ to lReef lKeeper
i would say 250w halides. you could always add a couple of fans to the canopy to keep them cooler.

FYI ... 10k XM is one of THE best bulbs on the market, IMHO.
__________________
Bobby

"I FORMERLY glued animals to rocks"

NO TANK RIGHT NOW, but you never know when I might throw one together !! I have everything I need but the time!!





Show people you appreciate their advice! Click the icon under their name to add to their reputation.
lReef lKeeper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93