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Old 10-15-2006, 09:52 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:09 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:21 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Someone on RC just posted pics of her corals under MH and then under Solaris.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...s&pagenumber=9
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:50 AM   #129 (permalink)
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the most impressive picture for me (even more so than the coral expansion) was how the color contrasts of her frogspawn were exemplified under the LEDs. Wow! Beautiful colors.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:11 PM   #130 (permalink)
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I just posted a response on that RC thread. I used the Tri-color set of three pics from my post here on page 5 so people can see the growth and better colors coming out of the coral.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:36 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Someone on RC just posted pics of her corals under MH and then under Solaris.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...s&pagenumber=9
The two week difference is amazing. Does anyone know if that is the 20k or 13k fixture? I did't see it mentioned, but it looks pretty blue so I would guess 20k...
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:00 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:19 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Amp,

Do you know what type of new features (if any) PFO is going to put into the 400watt equivalent Solaris?
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Old 10-16-2006, 09:15 PM   #134 (permalink)
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No, howie, Pat hasn't offered any changes in our conversations and I didn't think of asking. I will next time we speak, when he gets back from China.
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Old 10-21-2006, 07:52 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Hi All,
I am new to TalkingReef. I actually stumbled on to this site researching the Solaris lights. After reading for a while I decided to sign up. I am a member of Reefcentral and reefs.org but everyone just seems friendlier here. I have been keeping reefs since 1993 and it's amazing to me how fast technology has advanced. I was keeping SPS under VHO lighting for years. It seems like not so long ago we were all excited about the new power compacts. I believe Mr. Riddles remark in his article is an understatement, that many aquarist over do it on the lighting. A few years back I fell into the Metal Halide trap myself. I can remember second guessing my decision and pretty much spending hours of time convincing myself (and my wife) that MH's were the way to go. I think a lot of the adversity that the Solaris is getting from people like Sanjay may be due to the years of convincing themselves and everyone around them that they were doing the right thing by spending 1,000's of $$$ and having to deal with all the drawbacks that MH's bring. Such as HEAT and the Electric Bill $$$. I know I have spent many a months end (when the electric bill comes) convincing my wife of how bad we HAVE to have the heat lamps for the sake of the corals. Of course her reply always being, we never needed them before, and she was probably right. We didn't.
Metal Halides do make the tanks beautiful for the human eye. But with my personal observations I really haven't seen a huge difference in health of the organisms. Maybe if we were all running Coral Farms and had to have every little bit of growth it would make some difference, but I really doubt it. Polyp extension in all the pictures I've seen are just as good or better with the Solaris. And I have always believed that replicating natural sunlight and moonlight is very important. Some people tell me I'm full of it, but there has to be benefits to replicating sunlight as the Solaris does. I'm sure there a scientists out there that would tell me I'm way off, but I honestly don't see the difference in my tanks.(from VHO to MH)
I really believe that Amp is spot on with his observations of the Solaris, even if he is selling them. To get rid of the heat, cut down on the electric bill, simulate natural sunlight, and to never have to deal with timers makes it all worth it. And if you price out 3 250 watt halide pendants with ballasts, bulbs, etc... + your electric bill and bulb replacement for the cost of a 72 inch Solaris it isn't as hard to convince yourself or your wife. What would be great is if I could sell all these pendants I already have. I really believe Solaris and other LED Solutions are the way of the future. I think it will definately help our corals grow, and most importantly our marriages.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:09 AM   #136 (permalink)
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I forgot to tell you Amphibious that I really enjoyed reading through the setup of your newest tank. Beautiful tank.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:25 AM   #137 (permalink)
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hey chris, welcome to our wonder land, where the beers flowing and the eskimos are digging an ice box for the new keg. dont worry about deffecting, we are all pooled from different sites includng the ones u mentioned cause robs created a pleasent atmoshphere that we as members stive to uphold! bsides the beers colder here!

nice speech, some valid points u nailed there! your not going to get flamed for MH bashing, cause at the end of the day, we as reefers are only interested in 2 things, the health of the animals we are keeping, and the visual impact we strive to create! if u nail both of them with the tools of your chosing, thats fantastic!

we were talking about this the other day actually, that people fall into to fields, those that look objectivly, test, assess, & adapt.
and then there are those that follow trends both in script and habbits!

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Old 10-21-2006, 08:43 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Thanks for the nice reply veriann. I really don't want to bash anyones preferences. The post was just my opinion from my personal experience. I just don't think SPS needs 400 watt MH's to be healthy.
You have a super forum here. I have stayed up way too late going through the site. LOL
I am going to be setting up a new tank soon. I am moving in January and will have to do the dreaded teardown of my current tanks. If it's alright with everyone maybe I will be able to start a thread on the new setup like Amps. For now I gotta get some sleep. Thanks again for your kindness.
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:06 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Chris,

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To many, this forum has become like a tropical island resplendent in a harsh sea scape after a violent storm. Very diverse community of people from all lands have taken refuge here, looking for a respite from less friendly sites. You will soon feel like family. Our Master does a great job of keeping sibling rivalry to a minimum. Although, some of us drive him up a wall. Not mentioning any names, though.
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I really believe that Amp is spot on with his observations of the Solaris, even if he is selling them. To get rid of the heat, cut down on the electric bill, simulate natural sunlight, and to never have to deal with timers makes it all worth it. And if you price out 3 250 watt halide pendants with ballasts, bulbs, etc... + your electric bill and bulb replacement for the cost of a 72 inch Solaris it isn't as hard to convince yourself or your wife. What would be great is if I could sell all these pendants I already have. I really believe Solaris and other LED Solutions are the way of the future. I think it will definitely help our corals grow, and most importantly our marriages.
Thanks, Chris, I believe the Solaris is the light wave of the future. Yes, pricey now but, I know PFO is working on that issue. It's only natural that a manufacturer would try to lower the price of the current unit or come out with a less deluxe version to capture market share before competition does.

Again, Chris, welcome to our forum.
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:32 AM   #140 (permalink)
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Elecrtric bill plunges, from $364 to $297.

We've all wondered about PFO's claim of energy savings of 40% over equivalent MHs. Here's some proof that the Solaris saves energy.

I receive my electric bill via e-mail on the 21st of each month. My September electric bill was $364 for the previous month. I placed the Solaris into operation on September 27th. I just received my October bill f