Phyto, Rotifer cultures and hatching brine shrimp!
Hello All!
i have watched the phyto,rotifer, and hatching bring shrimp podcast episodes, but i still have a couple of questions...how doyou feed it! lol can you just pour some of the water in? and when you split the phyto .. you actually split in 3 and use one for rotifers right? and then when you split rotifers, do you do it the same way where you split it in half and then top it off? haha sorry i was just a little confused. and also was it right that you do not need to light the rotifers? and then last question is that ...rotifers and phyto and brine shrimp will cover all of my food for my LPS and softies right? i dont need to does anything else right? ..any other info would be great too!
how doyou feed it! lol can you just pour some of the water in?
Yep, just pour it in...
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when you split the phyto .. you actually split in 3 and use one for rotifers right?
you start with 2 containers, pour one full container into an extra container
now you have one full and one empty
take the one full one and split it half and half with the empty one
then top off both
then place them back on the shelf
this leaves you with one extra container full of extra. this is then user to feed the tank or rotifers, or whatever
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when you split rotifers, do you do it the same way where you split it in half and then top it off?
yep, you just top it off with phyto
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was it right that you do not need to light the rotifers?
that is correct, you can light it, which will keep the phyto alive longer, but you dont "have" to
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rotifers and phyto and brine shrimp will cover all of my food for my LPS and softies right? i dont need to does anything else right?
im not going to say its 100% of what you "need" but it covers alot.
i do also add other stuff. see my post in this thread for my list. this thread is full of good stuff though what does your tank dine on?
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but i always thought that you were not supposed to pour in the water that the phyto or rotiferrs were in because its full of ammonia? or is that something else?
and then do both rotifers and phyto use the same ...was it growth media?
and lastly, so it would be okay to have the rotifers and the phyto and the hatching brine shrimp all next to eachother and lighted all to the same amount of do i need to lower the rotifer light?
but i always thought that you were not supposed to pour in the water that the phyto or rotiferrs were in because its full of ammonia? or is that something else?
The phyto can be poured directly in. the Rotifers need to be filterd as i showed in the video. for brine shrimp and rotifers, you want to add them to the tank, not the water they culture in.
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and then do both rotifers and phyto use the same ...was it growth media?
the culture media is used by the phyto. the the phyto is used by rotifers.
you only add culture media to the phyto. you "can" add it to the rotifers, but it won't "feed" them, only the phyto in there
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and lastly, so it would be okay to have the rotifers and the phyto and the hatching brine shrimp all next to eachother and lighted all to the same amount of do i need to lower the rotifer light?
no, you want to keep the brine shrimp and rotifers separate or below the phyto, or you will likely run into cross contamination issues and phyto culture crashes
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ohh sorry about that rob, i just listened to one of those rotifers phyto q and a podcasts yesterday on the ride back home from davis
you mentioned some of that stuff..
but i am still alittle confused....could i run them next to eeachother in different containers? cause how can it get contaminated if they are in different ccontainers?
ohh sorry about that rob, i just listened to one of those rotifers phyto q and a podcasts yesterday on the ride back home from davis
you mentioned some of that stuff..
but i am still alittle confused....could i run them next to eeachother in different containers? cause how can it get contaminated if they are in different ccontainers?
i have some of my rotifers beside the phyto. but they are about a foot apart and on separate shelves, and separate air pumps. i have found out the hard way that most things we culture will find their way through the airlines. thats one way of contamination. then theres dropping a single drop of water from your rotifer culture on the top of the phyto culture. it only takes one rotifer to make millions. you also get splashes from the containers from around the airline, or the lid of the jar, as there has to be a place for the air thats pumped in to push air out. these splashes can land anywhere. and if one rotifer lands on the phyto it will find its way into the phyto. these are just my experiences im sure theres more.
yep, Paintbug is dead on.. there are many ways contamination "can" happen, you want to do your best to limit that.
things like physical separation, and then working with your most sensitive stuff first
for example, for me i wok with :
Isocrysis - most senstive
nanno - not so sensitive as a phyto, but sensitive to rotifers
rotifers - little iron monsters...
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one gallon of my rotifers catch light 24/7 just like the phyto. one of them bare catches any of the light. they both produce about the same amount of rotifers.
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