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Old 01-10-2008, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help! moss on live rock

Hey,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this stuff is or how to fix it.
It has been growing all over my rocks and I can't even clean it out.
It even grows on my mushrooms. >.<

Here's some pics of it:
- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00615.jpg

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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looks like a combination of diatoms and hair algae to me. can you get some clearer pics of it ??
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It looks like hair algae. More detailed info about your tank would help a lot in telling you how to solve.

I'm assuming this is a newer tank....if so, algae blooms are normal in a newer tank, especially after the cyle. Best solution is to optimize tank parameters by optimizing routine maintenence and insuring that the tank is set up and stocked properly. It's important to keep nitrates and phosphates low. Make sure your photo period is not too long and consider shortening it if it is.

You should also start to routinely remove it manually.
Manual hair algae removal technique:
1 - pinch some with your finger
2 - pull it off, keeping your fingers pinched
3 - pull it out of the tank and rinse the algae off your fingers in a bowl of water
4 - repeat until you just can't stand it any more )

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Old 01-10-2008, 05:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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More info on Tank:
It is 125 Gallon.
2 External Filters: Cascade 1000.
We just put on a new Protein Skimmer, which is the JEBO 180.
We have 2 clowns, 4 damsels, cleaner shrimp, red crab, scooter, and 2 anenomies so far.
We had a butterfly fish, and blue powder tang that died in 3 weeks. We had the tank running for about 2 months so far.

And thats our tank and I think the Protein Skimmer is casting out too many bubbles...

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- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00620.jpg

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The bubbles actually just got decreased.

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Old 01-10-2008, 08:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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what are you using in the external filters??? sponges, bio balls. that would be a big contributor if you ask me. and you get use some more live rock in there as well. the skimmer should help remove some of the waste that is for sure. what is your light cycle and how often do you feed the tank????
also this is such a young tank this is probably just a diatom bloom all part of the cycling process. have your parameters spiked and started to level yet (nitrates, amonia, nitrites)
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Yep,
I think it's because the tank is only 2 months old probably.
The filters have sponges I guess along with some black stuff, which I guess is
some type of charcoal. The skimmer is producing a ton of bubbles. Our tank has good circulation and may have too much in my opinion. The light is 320w T5's and it gets shut off at night when I go to sleep. Fish get fed brime shrimp twice a day. Anyway, this stuff is growing on my mushrooms and coral. Thanks for the help.

- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00623.jpg
- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00622.jpg
- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00621.jpg
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cut back on the feeding to once a day and run the light approx 8 hours and see what happens
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Welcome to TR Nub!

BTW: Where are the pics? They are not there them anymore...
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The pictures are now back up.
The hydrometer that we were using was broken. Our friend came over to test our tank with his little kit thing. He said our tank was wayyyyy to cold and the "Specific Gravity" was at 1.028. We just fixed that and he also said that the circulation of the tank was bad and told us to put the filter exhausts to one side, instead of a long tube that goes through the whole tank. Anyway, we're going to buy a little thing that controls how long the light is turned on. Thanks for the advice.

One more thing. lol
Our leather coral looks like it's about to die. >.<

Here is what it looked like 2 days ago:
- http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00599.jpg

Here is what it had been looking like for 2 days:
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...h/DSC00627.jpg

Anymore advice?
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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get your parameters stable and that will help.
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My advice...sounds like you need to get your friend over there a little more often. Please understand that I'm not trying to bash you, but I think you have much to learn (who doesn't though). Here are my suggestions:

I can see from your tank, that your only filtration comes from the filters...this will NOT be enough for a reef tank. I think your lighting is decent, but with out a lot more flow, most corals wont fare well.

I would also invest in a refractometer ASAP! I am not really sure how you made it this far with out something to measure salinity, which is absolutely critical.

Get your fish some decent food. Feeding brine shrimp to fish is like us trying to live on celery. It fills the tummy, but there isn't really anything nutritious in it. I would recommend some good flake or pellet (formula 1 or Spectrum).

I would also download and listen to the the Talking Reef podcasts from the beginning. I think you will learn a lot. Also, dont be afraid to keep asking Q's here. We will help as much as we can!
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I would also invest in a better skimmer Jebo's are not the most efficient skimmer. a good one for the price is the coralife skimmer.
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The hydrometer that we were using was broken. Our friend came over to test our tank with his little kit thing. He said our tank was wayyyyy to cold and the "Specific Gravity" was at 1.028.
Did your friend test for Nitrates and Phosphates? If so, what were the results?

What kind of filter do you have for the water you use for making SW batches and for evaporation?

How many gallons of SW do you change out every week?

What/How much/How often are you feeding the tank?

How well is the jebo skimmer performing? What is the skimmate like, and how much/how often do you empty the collection cup?

What temperature (Kelvin) bulbs are you running? How long are your lights on each day?


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Anymore advice?
I am going to be presumptuous, but here are some ideas:

1) Do not add any more organisms to your very young tank.
2) Invest in some basic test kits (Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate). Many people use the Salifert kits, but some are happy with API, Seachem, and FastTest. You need to test for Nitrates and Phosphates. Also get a Refractometer to regularly test your salinity.
3) Make sure you have a decent heater and thermometer, and keep the tank at 78-82 degrees.
4) Fully cure 60-80 pounds more LR in a bucket for 3-4 weeks, and then add it to the tank when Ammonia, Nitrite are zero and Nitrate is 5 ppm or less. You should have at least 125 pounds and preferably 150+ pounds in your tank total.
5) I would strongly recommend that you buy Reverse Osmosis - Deionized Water filter if you do not already have one, and regularly test it with a TDS meter.
6) I would recommend that you augment you flow with at least two stream pumps, like Koralia 4's, or Maxijet 1200's (with stream mod kit) and have them at both ends of tank pointing toward each other to produce chaotic, broad current.
7) Research. Listen to the TR podcasts if you have not already. Buy some recommended books, read the plethora of online articles by respected authors and start stalking the forums (with a grain of salt). This hobby has a TON of free information available on the internet.
8) Eventually get a Sump (with a