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Old 10-05-2007, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Help Me! How Do I Get Water To My Sump?

So apparently my other thread died, probably due to the title, so I figured I'd start one just for my problem. So if you know my situation, please skip this entire next paragraph.

So my situation is that I have a Seaclear System II tank. It has a built in wet/dry filter.

The back Looks just like that, except I have some cheato instead of the Bio balls. A while ago I bought this sump/fuge set up

My original plan was to put it higher on a shelf and pump water up to it and have gravity bring it back down. But now my parents would prefer me to have the sump below my tank.

So my question is:: is there any way to move water from my tank DOWN to the sump, without drilling. At the moment, I can't put an overflow on the back, unless there it one that can fit over the side over a 5 inch lip.

Thanks a bunch! Sorry I am such a pest, but that sump has been in my room for half a year already and I want to get it running!

Anything that is unclear, please let me know.

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Old 10-05-2007, 03:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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gravity works, just as long as you have redundancy built it big time.


custom overflow dude. without drilling thats your biggest dance partner.
You can tap off a pump drawing from the display with another in the sump pumping it back, but i wouldn't go that route unless your clearly commited, to much reliance on pressure or float systems, not to mention the pumps themselves need to be able to handle cold stops & starts if it fluctuates.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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AND if you use one pump to feed the sump and one to get the water back to the tank ... if one stops running and the other does not ... FLOOD !! i would say to having a custom overflow made to fit over the eurobrace is your best bet too.
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im guessing that would require some acrylic work wouldnt it..=( anywhere that might fabricate it for me?
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try to see if Manny (thesaint14 here) would be interested in trying to make one for you. he is very good with acrylic.
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very cool. i'll see if he pops in here
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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B]So my question is:: is there any way to move water from my tank DOWN to the sump, without drilling.[/b] At the moment, I can't put an overflow on the back, unless there it one that can fit over the side over a 5 inch lip.
Here's something radical: Why not pump water UP to your sump/refugium and let the water overflow back to your DT?

Sorry - I just noticed you mentioned that your parents would not like that...

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Old 10-05-2007, 07:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wait a second. Your parents don't want the sump above the tank and don't want you to drill. If they knew anything about the fallibility of siphon overflows, they wouldn't want you to have one of those either... It seems as if they really don't want you to have a sumpfugium!!!
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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well they will let me do the above tank one,

BUT theyd pay for whats needed to have it below the tank
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then drain, QT & plumb propperly...lol

Ether way, a sump by its very nature is only to provide extra water volume, a place to hide gear & to increase the oxygen content without the "so called" risks of having it distributed in the DT. A fuge alone can be achieved above on the side or under with ease, just takes your melon to sort the plumbing & failsafes
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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maybe i can convince them to let me drain and drill! haha


but i do actually have an overflow box, is there some way i could modify it to fit over the euro brace?
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Mark,

I think some pix and the dimensions of everything would probably help the people who are good with things like this. BTW, I am not one of those people.
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Old 10-07-2007, 07:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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heres what im working with


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