Frag Tank

[NaClFinatic]

Why do images without a return between them not automatically wrap like text? This the post text block is more than 1600 pixels across and that doesn't count the poster column and the rest of the page. Maybe it's just my dandy MS browser...

[V]

wow, i have know idea, but that sounded way cool..lol

[gwen_o_lyn]

Originally Posted by NaClFinatic

Why do images without a return between them not automatically wrap like text? This the post text block is more than 1600 pixels across and that doesn't count the poster column and the rest of the page. Maybe it's just my dandy MS browser...

bump for Rob to possibly fix.
I added returns to BB's post, a temporary solution for now.

[V]

I might miss my conglomerate of a picture now though..lol, thanks Q

[wwest]

The text block is all depending on the size of the browser. it will automaticly change the size of the box. as for the auto return when a picture is inputed, i am not a bloody clue..

[Rob]

Originally Posted by gwen_o_lyn

bump for Rob to possibly fix.
I added returns to BB's post, a temporary solution for now.

this is actually by design, so you can place images next to each other, as i do in my signature.

images posted using the "attach" function will get proper thumbnails and get organized better. sorry, this si just the way the system works for right now

[NaClFinatic]

But if i narrow my browser the images in your post wrap. I think it is because there is a space between them. V's were not spaced so like a single word it was not split?

[Rob]

Originally Posted by NaClFinatic

But if i narrow my browser the images in your post wrap. I think it is because there is a space between them. V's were not spaced so like a single word it was not split?

interesting, yes, i think that is the case..
in which its a browser function wrapping it, not the site..

but thanks for the info, i never noticed it before

[wildeone]

I got my frag system setup and here is a photo. 30 gallon breeder, 10 gallon sump to maximize frag space in the top tank. But I have a few questions.



Do I need to put some LR in this system? I assume so, where and how much is needed?

What are the downfalls of not skimming? I am using a HOB biowheel. I assume it will need to be changed often. I read skimming on this small system may not be needed.

Should there be any cleanup crew in there?

Do I need to cycle the system (I assume so)?

Thanks for all your input!

[fat walrus]

I would put as much live rock in the sump as will fit. I might also put a few large suspended chunks under the eggcrates.

By keeping the carbon fresh in the Emperor, you can help ease the problem of no proteining skimming. Perhaps remove the filter element and fill the filter with live rubble. I would still advise adding a skimmer when you can.

I would include scavengers.

I would cycle the system, just take some live rock from you system.....add a couple of janitors.....let it run for a while, and joila!

[V]

how much natral filtration is needed to be effective can be answered somewhere in the realm of wildmans head & fridge! why i hear you ask? cause wildmans picked up enough knowledge by now to have an overall vision, a stocking plan & a healthy dose of common sence when dealing with the nutrients he is adding to the water!!

A couple of question id be asking myself is

A) given my current space, do i have enough volume to cover the displacement caused by the rock, and further more do i believe it will be enough to handle my load!

B)is there enough clearance between the sump at the back to the shelvings above for routine maintance and the eddition of equiptments and natral filters!

C) is remote add-ons an option!


D) can i trap bubbles effectivly before the return & can i provide the correct flow rates for my animals!

E) with frags in place will cleaning detritus build-ups under my structures be a pleasure or hinderance! like wise with the possition of my sump!

F) will i have the means to become addaptable with the my system in regards to both animals & environment!

G) how , how much & where will i employ my replacement water!

u did well to get up & running wildman! in my travels on this subject ive found its better to be versitile with your thinking rather than relying solely on the "whole reef" mentality! just my few cents anyways!

[wildeone]

FW - Thanks for the reply. I have a chance at a Remora skimmer with MJ1200 used for $75.00. I think I may jump on it and that should take care of the skimmer issue.

Since your reply I am now activly looking for some local used LR, anout 15 to 20lbs

I will put some LR from my tank in there tonight to get the cycle cranking.


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Little Buddy from Down Under - Thanks as well for the compliments and questions. You bring up some points I have not thought about.

A) I will see how much is displaced by the LR. I hope to get 15 to 20lbs since I will have no fish and I hop a lower bio load.

B) I am not sure what I would need behind the tank for, but The photo may be deceiving. The shelf edge is right above the edge of the tank, I was hesitant about putting it there, but it can come down with 6 screws if need be.

C) Remote Add ons? Like another tank? Only if I want a divorce .

D) Remains to be seen. I have yet to see what a remora skimmer will put out. I have plans for a couple small powerheads.

E) Good point! I have made the far left shelf easy to pull out, but who would want to pull a shelf with frags out of the water. So, I think I may be on shelf heavy in there. If I remove one, I can slide the others.

F) I adapt quite well. I plan on only snails, and frags!

G) I have a small pico pump, so I was thinking that I would make another auto top off system to match the one on my main tank. Total cost $30.

Thanks again folks, I will keep you all posted!

[fat walrus]

Wildeone,

Keep an eye on your temperature. Sometimes a small surge tank can help add water volume to the system, reduce the need for powerheads, and keep the nutrients suspended for your corals. It also will create a wavelike effect.


BTW, if you read this.....can you page me? I'm not sure if my page messaging is working.

[V]

only small problem is a slight loss in water height making way for the surge