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reefenthusiast
05-17-2006, 02:41 AM
Hello everyone I am a new user and really enjoy the podcasts. anyway I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on common diseases in fish and the most effective treatments, reef safe methods of course. I am also interested in knowing more coral diseases as well. Thanks a lot!

EROCK

Rob
05-17-2006, 09:19 AM
this is a pretty broad topic.. and one of the problems is that there are few sure fire ways. many ways are environmentally dependant, as in if you have X you can(t) do that.

if you want to thin it down a bit and be more specific, go for it..

or check out our Library (http://www.librarything.com/catalog/talkingreef) and you can find some good books.

I'm sure some of us could write some things, but there is SO much, and some of diseases are not well understood with most "fixes" being anecdotal fixes.

this is why we preach finding healthy specimens and proper QT.

Rob
05-17-2006, 09:19 AM
BTW, Welcometo Talkignreef.. :)

veriann
05-17-2006, 09:51 AM
tsaisuhtnefeeR --- emocleW oT feergniklaT ytinummoC

opps, feeling alittle backwards today, lets see that, in action slow replay

Hope u enjoy your stay with us at the FIRM:twisted:
cause once your in, u can never leave.. muahahaha

Rob
05-17-2006, 10:06 AM
tsaisuhtnefeeR --- emocleW oT feergniklaT ytinummoC

opps, feeling alittle backwards today, lets see that, in action slow replay

Hope u enjoy your stay with us at the FIRM:twisted:
cause once your in, u can never leave.. muahahaha
LMAO..... never a dull day with you here.. :)

veriann
05-17-2006, 10:16 AM
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reefenthusiast
05-17-2006, 12:27 PM
can anyone recommend a good book on diseases and treatments?

Reefbaby
05-17-2006, 04:03 PM
Welcome to TR reefenthusiast! As you can see, we've got a great bunch of very serious cornballs! :-) ...who just happen to have a wealth of knowledge up their sleeves.

Eric Borneman's book - "Aquarium Corals : Selection, Husbandry, and Natural History" is a great book. He covers a lot of stuff here.

Reefbaby
05-17-2006, 04:05 PM
oh...sorry...I just realized you meant fish. Hmm....most of my info on fish I've found online, so I can't recommend a single good book for that. I'm sure someone else will chirp up. http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/tiere/chicken.gif

Rob
05-17-2006, 08:04 PM
the joyce wilkerson book, clownfishes, does go through common clown fish diseases.. :)

CarmieJo
05-17-2006, 08:52 PM
Hi EROCK,

Welcome to TR.

fat walrus
05-17-2006, 09:47 PM
try the Marine Aquarium Problem Solver. disease and a whole lot of other stuff one may run into when the collective mind of TR is not available.

fat walrus
05-17-2006, 09:57 PM
oh and for the fish geeks, Dr. Martin Moe Jr: Beginner To Breeder. still consider the bible by many. to understand disease, it is best to learn of the optimal conditions that animals should be kept in first, and THEN the results of the lack of such, and FINALLY the corrective measures. in other words, most problems start with water and housing conditions, it is and always wil be the ultimate source of your problems.

veriann
05-18-2006, 06:44 AM
try the Marine Aquarium Problem Solver. disease and a whole lot of other stuff one may run into when the collective mind of TR is not available.

u refering to Nick Dakin Edition- Tetra Press
talk about keeping it simple...lol

i would use the info in this book as very rough guide for dummies.
its out of date with the thinking, its 2001 release that im aware of is still 1996 concepts.

i do hope its gathering dust my man

i surpose the fish health section gives a brief over view anyways for all intensive puposses, but im would not suggest trying to track this book down. it meant well - so i shouldn't shunt it to much, thats one book more than i have written :)

fat walrus
05-18-2006, 08:30 PM
talk about keeping it simple...lol



i do hope its gathering dust my man


it does have a layer of dust so thick from lack of use. but i have lent the book out to friends starting out and it has help them. remember somethings hobbyist with very litttle experience just don't know how to describe certain problems, and that book does give some insight on everything. if you think that is old, i still have the original axelrod and burgess atlas that came in a notebook binder. a lot of the identifications and descriptions are incorrect, but it is still a classic.

reefenthusiast
05-18-2006, 10:49 PM
thanks for the advice everyone. I do not have any ill fish but I am an employee at a LFS and I do see a fair share of diseases. So I do have a basic understanding, i was mainly just wondering if there were any new techniques to help treat or acclimate fish to avoid diseases. Many of the fish we recieve are wild caught so they can be more susceptable to disease. usually I will do a freshwater dip but this seems to also cause some unessesary stress on them...

-EROCK

fat walrus
05-18-2006, 11:52 PM
thanks for the advice everyone. I do not have any ill fish but I am an employee at a LFS and I do see a fair share of diseases. So I do have a basic understanding, i was mainly just wondering if there were any new techniques to help treat or acclimate fish to avoid diseases. Many of the fish we recieve are wild caught so they can be more susceptable to disease. usually I will do a freshwater dip but this seems to also cause some unessesary stress on them...

-EROCK
long-trip shipments and short-trip shipments are different. most acclimation procedures involve adding water slowly to the shipping water over time until the water in the acclimation container consist primarily of water from the environment the the fish wil be transferred to. in long-trip shipments, this can be problematic. if the fish has spent a long time in a bag, the existing water can be really high in total ammonia and low in ph. if the same acclimation procedure were to be followed, the fish will stay in its own filth for an extended amount of time, as acclimation water(usually correct in ph) is added to the exsisting water quickly raising the ph, the binded ammonia(ammonium) will be released as free ammonia very quickly...causing stress and quickly depleting oxygen at the same time. in long-trip shipments, it is best to quickly acclimate the fish to an environment that has been articifically lowered in ph by CO2, the holding tanks are then brought up in ph over a period of 12-24 hours. the holding tanks should now be the quarantine tanks to observe for different ailments and corrective measures should be taken before transfered to it final destination or sales display.

reefenthusiast
05-19-2006, 12:04 AM
thats great advice, thanks a lot!

unleashed
05-21-2006, 06:54 PM
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/ this has a wide range of disease diagnosis and some treatments they recommend their products of course but im sure once you know the problem finding substitution of treatments wont be that hard of you cant get from them

Reefbaby
05-22-2006, 04:40 AM
that's a great link unleashed! Yikes...if you go to the Online Fish Disease Diagnosis (http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/diseases.html), there's some pretty scary stuff out there. Rather intimidating....

veriann
05-22-2006, 07:19 AM
and thats just the people that created the site, wait till u get to the information...lol

Reefbaby
05-22-2006, 12:32 PM
yeah - I meant the diseases look pretty scary....never thought that so much could go so wrong! :-)