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Marauder-m
04-07-2006, 12:08 AM
I had a Rose BTA in my tank which was really doing really well. During the day it was about the size of a dinner plate, and stretched out from a nice little anchor spot right in the middle of my tank.
Then came summer, and being new to the aquarium hobby I had no chiller. I went away and had a friend feeding my fish. When I got back the BTA had bleached and split in two. Both were completely white with the exception with the very tips. It turns out that my tank got to over 30 C (approx 86 F), which explains the bleaching. I lost several corals, but my beloved clowns came through just fine.
My question is this... Is there any way I can help the BTA's replenish their Zooxanthellae? They have been slowly wasting away over the past 3 months, even with me feeding regularly (table shrimp, blood worms and brine shrimp). I'd really like to save them if possible, but at this stage its not looking good.

gwen_o_lyn
04-07-2006, 12:10 AM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_3_36.gif to TR!!

Sorry about your anemone. What kinda lighting ya got? How long has your tank been up? Water params?

Rob
04-07-2006, 12:32 AM
well, i dont want to say they can be saved. but i do know a person who had the same thing happen. and she managed to keep hers alive for years after the bleaching

i had a picture of it but cant seem to find it.
cant really say for sure what she did either..

im sorry, i wish i could be more helpful

Marauder-m
04-07-2006, 12:37 AM
2 T8 fluros. One white other actinic (think they're 12 inches long, cant remember wattage)
Salinity is 1.027. Just got a refractometer and am bringing it to 1.026. I generally top off twice a week based on sump water level.
450 ppm Ca
9 ºKH
Temp 26 ºC
Ammonia undetectable
Nitrite Undetectable
Nitrate about 10 ppm (could be as high as 15 as test is difficult to read)

These have been kept as constant as possible, with the exception of the high temp event in Jan. BTA was growing well up to that point... almost too well. Tank been up for a year now.

I now have a chiller fitted, although not needed at this time due to autumn having set in.

Marauder-m
04-07-2006, 12:41 AM
well, i dont want to say they can be saved. but i do know a person who had the same thing happen. and she managed to keep hers alive for years after the bleaching

i had a picture of it but cant seem to find it.
cant really say for sure what she did either..

im sorry, i wish i could be more helpful

No problem... I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that they're on their way out, but I'll keep trying to help until they finally give up.

Rob
04-07-2006, 12:44 AM
i wish i could find the picture.
it was beautiful.
it was white/clear, with bright purple ends.
i had questioned her on it, then she told me the story, very similar to yours, and that it had been like that for over a year, and still doing good

gwen_o_lyn
04-07-2006, 01:41 PM
Here is a good link from a friend who belongs on my other reef board- looks like what u are describing Rob

http://mysite.verizon.net/s0da/sabae.html

Rob
04-07-2006, 02:03 PM
close..
but this on was a BTA..
and when i say it was white.. i mean WHITE.
it was almost transparent.. and not purple tips, bright purple ends...

i really need to find that picture...
it was something to see...

Amphibious
04-08-2006, 05:57 AM
Marauder-m

http://www.theculturedreef.com/welcome.gif To Talking Reef Community and Podcast!

There are two reasons anemonies split. First because they are healthy and second, because they are not. The healthy split should be self explanatory. When stressed anemonies often split in an attempt to self preserve the species, eg, that one will drift off and find more favorable living conditions and survive.

I couldn't find where you posted the size of your aquarium but two 12" - T8 bulbs, regardless of the wattage, can not support an anemonie. Maintaining the proper parameters is important and you are doing this. More important for an anemonie's long term survival is a high energy light source such as MH or possibly, VHF or T5s with sufficient wattage.


Hope this helps.


Dick

Marauder-m
04-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Thanks for that. I went back and checked my lights. They're 24", not 12. My bad.
The lighting was definately sufficient because when we bought the BTA it was about 10 cm in diameter. Within a month it had doubled in size and just before I went away for Xmas, it was over 30 cm in diameter and apparently still growing. It just kept growing and I was starting to worry about the shadow it cast over my other corals.
I also have a doughnut (sometimes refered to as a meat coral) I was told that this needed medium to high light intensity. So far it was also bee going great (with the exception of when it lost half of its tissue after the BTA wandered over it). We nursed it bach to health and it is now about 15 cm in diameter, with good colouring.
After the temperature got so high, the BTA's (having split) are a shadow of their former self. It would be nice if there was a way to provide a fresh dose of Zooxanthellae to repopulate the tissues. Judging by the feedback I've had so far, that seems unlikely.
Incidentally the doughnut survived the heat without trouble.

Marauder-m
06-10-2006, 04:45 AM
Got some before and after shots. Found the before shot in amoungst a whole lot of pics I had not sorted.

Rob
06-10-2006, 01:46 PM
very cool shots...
i do hope it continues to do well for you

pham411
06-10-2006, 07:20 PM
holy cow, thats the first time i seen that, what was the cause??

fat walrus
06-11-2006, 02:51 AM
holy cow, thats the first time i seen that, what was the cause??
hey pham how is it going with your progress in the your new method?

Marauder-m
06-11-2006, 12:48 PM
My tank over heated in Jan 06. Have a look at my tank journal for more info.

pham411
06-12-2006, 09:07 AM
hey pham how is it going with your progress in the your new method?
nothing noticable yet. im only on my first dose

Marauder-m
06-13-2006, 07:58 AM
new method?

V
06-13-2006, 08:46 AM
nutient reduction method, zeovit or its clones if memery serves me correct, bad memory sorry!

fat walrus
06-14-2006, 01:24 AM
:mrgreen:
nutient reduction method, zeovit or its clones if memery serves me correct, bad memory sorry!
actually, pham is doing the PRODIBIO method. come on, bushboy stay with it.

V
06-14-2006, 05:05 AM
hey, those brain cells are reserved for abuse from the steady flow of beer that i will be consuming tonight, second state of origin clash! got to keep it in perspective here..lol

fat walrus
06-14-2006, 05:09 AM
FOSTERS rock.

Marauder-m
06-14-2006, 05:58 AM
No Body Drinks Fosters!!!!!

fat walrus
06-14-2006, 06:03 AM
No Body Drinks Fosters!!!!!
that's why it rocks. inside joke with veriann. lol