View Full Version : Zoa Id Please
bob21115 10-08-2006, 04:26 PM I have a few Zoanthid's I was hoping to get a ID's of. Are #1 and #2 the same?
#1
http://www.wmiaquatics.com/images/rc/zoa1.jpg
#2
http://www.wmiaquatics.com/images/rc/zoalargepurple1.jpg
#3
http://www.wmiaquatics.com/images/rc/zoapurplegreen2.jpg
#4
http://www.wmiaquatics.com/images/rc/zoared1.jpg
#5
http://www.wmiaquatics.com/images/rc/zoagreen1.jpg
it is my understanding that these type of zoanthids are all the same species, just that they have different color variations. they are simply referred to by there colors
such as #4 being brown with orange skirts
bob21115 10-09-2006, 02:40 PM it is my understanding that these type of zoanthids are all the same species, just that they have different color variations. they are simply referred to by there colors
such as #4 being brown with orange skirts
They are also refered to by names. I was looking for the common name. It was suggested on reef central that:
#3 is Radio Active Dragon Eyes
#4 Fire and Ice variation
#5 Kryptonite
check out zoaid.com
ah yes.. sorry,
see im not a fan of zoanthids, so im not up on the hobby names given to them.. sorry..
hopefully someone else can be more help than me.. :D
fat walrus 10-09-2006, 04:57 PM Those names really don't mean a whole lot, as they are all the same species. All those names were created at the retail level. It recent times, it has been an internet fad to put nametags on everthing to enhance perceived value. Those zoos that you have have been around as long as I have, were years it was just referred to assorted zoos. They are all still imported under one scientific name, with no color selection given to the importer(purchaser). If you look around, you may find exact same colors sold under different names.
Amphibious 10-09-2006, 05:55 PM Those names really don't mean a whole lot, as they are all the same species. All those names were created at the retail level. It recent times, it has been an internet fad to put nametags on everthing to enhance perceived value. Those zoos that you have have been around as long as I have, were years it was just referred to assorted zoos. They are all still imported under one scientific name, with no color selection given to the importer(purchaser). If you look around, you may find exact same colors sold under different names.Very true Wally and the more creative the name the higher the price for those willing to pay.
gwen_o_lyn 10-09-2006, 07:15 PM I spice up my rich brown zoas by calling them Godiva Chocolate Zoas, such as pic #1. Just gives them a whole new meaning :)
Hard to tell if #1 and #2 are the same. I've had zoas look drastically different from one photo to the next. If they were shot under the same light, and same camera settings, then I think they look different, but hard to say.
Amphibious 10-09-2006, 07:21 PM We all know how expensive Godiva Chocolates are.
Stevej72 10-09-2006, 07:23 PM What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
all the common names do is jack up the price
m8298 10-09-2006, 07:48 PM Call them what you will, next time your in my area I'd be interested in some #3's and some #5's on a trade....
m8298 10-09-2006, 07:51 PM See how that works? No common name, cause I'm hoping to trade. :)
fat walrus 10-09-2006, 10:00 PM I spice up my rich brown zoas by calling them Godiva Chocolate Zoas, such as pic #1. Just gives them a whole new meaning :)
What's with your obsession with naked noble French woman on horseback? :eek:
gwen_o_lyn 10-09-2006, 10:03 PM huh?
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fat walrus 10-09-2006, 10:09 PM huh?
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I thought I already told you the legend of Lady Godiva?
gwen_o_lyn 10-09-2006, 10:26 PM hmm i don't know, u may have, but my memory is pretty much shot :(
fat walrus 10-09-2006, 10:46 PM hmm i don't know, u may have, but my memory is pretty much shot :(
Lord Godiva decides to tax the peasantry excessively for chocolates. Lady Godiva rides naked through town to protest the new tax-law in support of the peasants. Lady Godiva swears to repeat stunt each day until law is repealed. Lord Godiva gives in. Lady Godiva becomes patron saint of chocolates in France. (something like that.). To this day, true Godiva chocolates "lady style" are sold unwrapped.
CarmieJo 10-09-2006, 10:52 PM OK, I knew the story of Lady Godiva but I didn't know about the Lady Style chocolates being unwrapped. I think that goes to show how much fancy chocolate I buy!
fat walrus 10-09-2006, 11:01 PM OK, I knew the story of Lady Godiva but I didn't know about the Lady Style chocolates being unwrapped. I think that goes to show how much fancy chocolate I buy!
Hey, it's been a long time.........maybe the PC crowd have forced changes.
But with my gut, I can tell you about Sara Lee, Chef Boyardee, Ben & Jerry, and much much more!
Maybe I'll start a food thread?
bob21115 10-09-2006, 11:07 PM ah yes.. sorry,
see im not a fan of zoanthids, so im not up on the hobby names given to them.. sorry..
hopefully someone else can be more help than me.. :D
neither am I, I got some with a tank I bought and they spread like crazy and I thought I would setup a grow out tank to be able to take some to a swap or two. I thought it might be nice to be able to call them by the common name.
bob21115 10-09-2006, 11:10 PM I spice up my rich brown zoas by calling them Godiva Chocolate Zoas, such as pic #1. Just gives them a whole new meaning :)
Hard to tell if #1 and #2 are the same. I've had zoas look drastically different from one photo to the next. If they were shot under the same light, and same camera settings, then I think they look different, but hard to say.
They are less than 6" apart in the same tank and pictures were taken a few seconds apart.
CarmieJo 10-09-2006, 11:14 PM They are less than 6" apart in the same tank and pictures were taken a few seconds apart.Then my guess is that they are the same.
bob21115 10-09-2006, 11:20 PM I'm not worried about increasing the price. If I say I have some "Fire and Ice" Zoa's most collectors will know what they look like with out a picture.
fat walrus 10-09-2006, 11:21 PM neither am I, I got some with a tank I bought and they spread like crazy and I thought I would setup a grow out tank to be able to take some to a swap or two. I thought it might be nice to be able to call them by the common name.
I hear you. But the problem is that those names are not actually "common", but were created by the seller. In the old days, we just describe the color or sent a picture. As I implied earlier, names will differ according to seller or location.
Like the one you bought as Krytonite, someone would take a better picture or enhance it and call it "Super Kryptonite", or "Metallic Kryptonite Ice", or "Limited Edition Super Metallic Kryptonite Ice"!.
Don't worry so much about the names, they do not exist in the international trade world, only in the internet world. I am sure Amphibious can verify this.
Also, don't forget that what is a common name only is common within that circle. Don't believe me, go to Indonesia and ask. There is only three types of zoos available from exporters: small, medium, and large.
CarmieJo 10-09-2006, 11:58 PM Walrus,
Is that based on the polyp size or the colony size? (I know, I am weird that way.)
fat walrus 10-10-2006, 12:09 AM Walrus,
Is that based on the polyp size or the colony size? (I know, I am weird that way.)
The Indo natives base the size or the colony on ROCK SIZE. Not polyp count or polyp size. It is possible to receive a huge rock with only a few polyps or you may receive a tiny rock bursting with polyps. I've seen hundreds of shipments, and sometimes the LFS can really get shafted by the shipper. My advice, give your LFS a break sometimes......it was not his fault that he paid the collector for a large polyp rock with only a few polyps and then got slammed by the airlines for the freight of a large rock.
CarmieJo 10-10-2006, 09:03 PM And now you know the rest of the story!
Amphibious 10-10-2006, 09:51 PM I hear you. But the problem is that those names are not actually "common", but were created by the seller. In the old days, we just describe the color or sent a picture. As I implied earlier, names will differ according to seller or location.
Like the one you bought as Krytonite, someone would take a better picture or enhance it and call it "Super Kryptonite", or "Metallic Kryptonite Ice", or "Limited Edition Super Metallic Kryptonite Ice"!.
Don't worry so much about the names, they do not exist in the international trade world, only in the internet world. I am sure Amphibious can verify this.
Also, don't forget that what is a common name only is common within that circle. Don't believe me, go to Indonesia and ask. There is only three types of zoos available from exporters: small, medium, and large.That is absolutely correct. Before the Internet there were brown, red, blue, green and orange zoos collected and most of them lost their color under our anemic lighting systems. Some times they wouldn't even open up. They sat there like knobs.
Stevej72 10-11-2006, 08:05 PM That is absolutely correct. Before the Internet there were brown, red, blue, green and orange zoos collected and most of them lost their color under our anemic lighting systems. Some times they wouldn't even open up. They sat there like knobs.
LOL Lose the "colors" and "zoos Collected" And it sounds like my High School
Amphibious 10-11-2006, 10:16 PM http://www.theculturedreef.com/thinkW.gif Ok, I'm confused.
NaClFinatic 10-12-2006, 08:20 AM good one steve
http://www.theculturedreef.com/thinkW.gif Ok, I'm confused.
here i will see if i can help ya out...
read it this way
That is absolutely correct. Before the Internet there were brown, red, blue, green and orange, and most of them lost theirs under our anemic lighting systems. Some times they wouldn't even open up. They sat there like knobs.
Amphibious 10-12-2006, 03:00 PM OK, I guess.
Stevej72 10-12-2006, 06:47 PM LOL Or this way
That is absolutely correct. Before the Internet there were brown, red, blue, green and orange zoos collected and most of them lost their color under our anemic lighting systems. Some times they wouldn't even open up. They sat there like knobs.
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