View Full Version : Purple Up Coraline Algae Accelerator Questions. JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 09:39 PM Hello everyone, I have just purchased some Purple Up Coraline Algae Accelerator additives that I'm interested in using on my aquarium so that I can finally see some coraline algae within my aquarium. My questions are below:
1. Has anyone used the chemical additive and had it work? My aquarium contains no Coraline Algae within it does this require Coraline algae present within my aquarium?
2. The directions state that it is to be added no more then once a day but does not state how often after that once a day I should add it?
3. I have some nuisance Cyno growing within the tank that I'm combating will adding this checical additive increase the problem that I am currently combating?
Thanks for your help everyone. :) pham411 07-12-2006, 09:43 PM 1. ive used it, it works.
2. i just stuck to the instructions, once a day.
3. i dont think cyno and coraline use up the same nutrients. try chemi clean, or more flow in your tank for the cyno fat walrus 07-12-2006, 09:46 PM Hello everyone, I have just purchased some Purple Up Coraline Algae Accelerator additives that I'm interested in using on my aquarium so that I can finally see some coraline algae within my aquarium. My questions are below:
1. Has anyone used the chemical additive and had it work? My aquarium contains no Coraline Algae within it does this require Coraline algae present within my aquarium?
2. The directions state that it is to be added no more then once a day but does not state how often after that once a day I should add it?
3. I have some nuisance Cyno growing within the tank that I'm combating will adding this checical additive increase the problem that I am currently combating?
Thanks for your help everyone. :)
1. i have used it before. have a rock with coraline on it will help, but it is not impossible to grow coraline from none.
2. use it until you think you have maximised coraline growth and then you no longer use it.
3. no, it will actually help your situation. wwest 07-12-2006, 10:06 PM jumping in with a question, if you achieve the corline algae amount that you want and you stop dosing will it grow like a weed from that point or will it take some time? JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:09 PM 1. i have used it before. have a rock with coraline on it will help, but it is not impossible to grow coraline from none.
2. use it until you think you have maximised coraline growth and then you no longer use it.
3. no, it will actually help your situation.
I will begin dosing tonight! Teach me more Grand Master Reefer Walrus. :D JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:10 PM So is it safe to say that when my entire aquariums panes except for the front are full of coraline algae that I have maximized Coraline Algae growth? :rotfl: Raggamuffin 07-12-2006, 10:12 PM 1. Never used it but plan on it. Many in the local fish club swear on useing a bottle on newer tanks to get the boost before clean up crews go in and have advised me that it helps even after that if you just toss in a dose a week.
2. Once a day, I'd guess anywhere within a couple hours is ok. Myself I do all my fishy chores the second I get out of the shower after work.
3. It won't have an effect on the cyno directly I don't think. I took a very cheap way out of my cyno problem,I bought this phosblock filter pad at my LFS for $8 and cut a little chucnk out of it every 2 weeks or so and use it as a prefilter media. It wiped out my problem in 2 weeks the draw back is it gives you a false very high ammonia reading on all the tests I've tried so that kinda becomes a guess unless you let it clear itself from the system. fat walrus 07-12-2006, 10:16 PM jumping in with a question, if you achieve the corline algae amount that you want and you stop dosing will it grow like a weed from that point or will it take some time?
well, scraping coraline algae is the BADGE OF ACHIEVEMENT, so more coraline is desirable. it won't grow like a weed......using purple up is just to get a head start, after that i is up to your tank parameters to maintain it. JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:16 PM 1. Never used it but plan on it. Many in the local fish club swear on useing a bottle on newer tanks to get the boost before clean up crews go in and have advised me that it helps even after that if you just toss in a dose a week.
2. Once a day, I'd guess anywhere within a couple hours is ok. Myself I do all my fishy chores the second I get out of the shower after work.
3. It won't have an effect on the cyno directly I don't think. I took a very cheap way out of my cyno problem,I bought this phosblock filter pad at my LFS for $8 and cut a little chucnk out of it every 2 weeks or so and use it as a prefilter media. It wiped out my problem in 2 weeks the draw back is it gives you a false very high ammonia reading on all the tests I've tried so that kinda becomes a guess unless you let it clear itself from the system.
I'm going to pick up one of the phosphate absorbing pads myself next week. Raggamuffin 07-12-2006, 10:32 PM gimmie a sec I'll run upstairs and see if I can find the brand name.........
*Imagine huffy puffy noises*
It's a Pura filtration pad, was $7.99 a pad cut to fit. Do not worry when your tank clouds for about an hour it goes away and that + during water changes for the 2 or 3 weeks following the first use just try to syphon out what ya can. It didn't "kill" the cyno just takes out of the water what it needs to grow. Went from tons to none in under 4 weeks. fat walrus 07-12-2006, 10:34 PM a lot of these filtration pads require pre-rinsing, otherwise...your skimmer will go nuts. JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:36 PM gimmie a sec I'll run upstairs and see if I can find the brand name.........
*Imagine huffy puffy noises*
It's a Pura filtration pad, was $7.99 a pad cut to fit. Do not worry when your tank clouds for about an hour it goes away and that + during water changes for the 2 or 3 weeks following the first use just try to syphon out what ya can. It didn't "kill" the cyno just takes out of the water what it needs to grow. Went from tons to none in under 4 weeks.
Thanks for the information I actually was in need of changing the filter pad in my wet/dry filter. :agree: JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:37 PM a lot of these filtration pads require pre-rinsing, otherwise...your skimmer will go nuts.
I have heard that it is necessary to turn off any proteins skimmers to effectively have chemical Cyno killers work properly? Any truth in this? :roll: fat walrus 07-12-2006, 10:51 PM I have heard that it is necessary to turn off any proteins skimmers to effectively have chemical Cyno killers work properly? Any truth in this? :roll:
yes. i know that every brand that i have ever encountered needed to turn off skimmer. pham411 07-12-2006, 10:52 PM jumping in with a question, if you achieve the corline algae amount that you want and you stop dosing will it grow like a weed from that point or will it take some time?
beginers always want coraline to grow, people that have been in the hobby for a while find that it can be a nucience. pham411 07-12-2006, 10:53 PM I have heard that it is necessary to turn off any proteins skimmers to effectively have chemical Cyno killers work properly? Any truth in this? :roll:
yes they usually do. chemi clean seems to work well, ive never used it though JayBeDriften 07-12-2006, 10:55 PM beginers always want coraline to grow, people that have been in the hobby for a while find that it can be a nucience.
I'm confused by this Pham411 could you please explain to me how coraline can be a nuisance, I thought that it was beneficial? :no: wwest 07-12-2006, 11:02 PM Pham411 i also know alot of people that have been in the salt hobby for 7 years plus. that say it is good for tanks and also looks really nice.. why is it some people want it and other dont? other than the cosmetic look to it? pham411 07-12-2006, 11:05 PM it is beneficial to a certain extent. it can cause problems when growing on your pumps, also coraline is known to consume lots of magnesium. when you got it growing everywhere it can have an effect onyou magesium levels. low magnesium levels means you will have problems with you alkalinity and calcium. again this is only if your coraline get outta control. CarmieJo 07-12-2006, 11:10 PM I love how it looks on my rocks, etc but I get tired of scraping it off my glass. pham411 07-12-2006, 11:12 PM I love how it looks on my rocks, etc but I get tired of scraping it off my glass.
im hear ya carmie, got the stuff growing all over fat walrus 07-12-2006, 11:14 PM I love how it looks on my rocks, etc but I get tired of scraping it off my glass.
success comes with a certain amount of work. scraping coraline beats wiping slime and pulling HA. wwest 07-12-2006, 11:16 PM AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!!!!! well, scraping coraline algae is the BADGE OF ACHIEVEMENT, so more coraline is desirable. it won't grow like a weed......using purple up is just to get a head start, after that i is up to your tank parameters to maintain it.
lol.. sorry blubber, but i beg to differ... ;)
the stuff has almost become a nuisance in my tank.. it grows faster than i can scape it off..
last weekend i finally broke down and went at my tank glass with a razor blade and removed it all from the glass... today, 4 days later, its already growing back...
that said, my case is the odd one. coraline growth is a good thing and you can stop dosing once you see its growing good.. trust, it wont take real long, few months and you should be going fat walrus 07-13-2006, 01:29 AM lol.. sorry blubber, but i beg to differ... ;)
the stuff has almost become a nuisance in my tank.. it grows faster than i can scape it off..
last weekend i finally broke down and went at my tank glass with a razor blade and removed it all from the glass... today, 4 days later, its already growing back...
that said, my case is the odd one. coraline growth is a good thing and you can stop dosing once you see its growing good.. trust, it wont take real long, few months and you should be going
so you would rather wipe slime and pull HA? lol lol.. no way...
but he darn coraline can get annoying.. but yer right, its better than the others.. ;) JayBeDriften 07-13-2006, 09:24 AM Okay I'm just plain Jealous of all you guys with your scraping of Coraline Algae since I'm tired of Scraping slime and pulling Hair Algae and would really like to start scraping Coraline Algae. Raggamuffin 07-13-2006, 05:49 PM Well I'm in neither boat, I've got plating green algae growing everywhere in my tank, Coralline in red, green, purple, orange, yellow and pink....even what to my eyes is an aqua blue color but every bit stays on the rocks. JayBeDriften 07-14-2006, 10:33 AM My aquarium is starting to turn into a nightmare. I'm going to pick up the phosphate sponge and some Red Slime Algae chemical killer today I woke and up its like the blob. :-( pham411 07-14-2006, 06:08 PM My aquarium is starting to turn into a nightmare. I'm going to pick up the phosphate sponge and some Red Slime Algae chemical killer today I woke and up its like the blob. :-(
what kind of movement do you have in your tank? CarmieJo 07-14-2006, 08:57 PM Well I'm in neither boat, I've got plating green algae growing everywhere in my tank, Coralline in red, green, purple, orange, yellow and pink....even what to my eyes is an aqua blue color but every bit stays on the rocks.
How did you train it to do that? :lol: fat walrus 07-14-2006, 09:08 PM How did you train it to do that? :lol:
you, bad coralline.....get off the glass and stay on the live rocks where you belong! i'm serious......if you don't shape up, you're going to bed without any calcium....you hear me? you want light? :rotfl: CarmieJo 07-14-2006, 10:06 PM Yeah, that is what I was thinking! fat walrus 07-14-2006, 10:15 PM Yeah, that is what I was thinking!
that the kinder, gentlier modern method. too bad that coralline wasn't around in the old days of belts and paddles! why you useless coralline.......just wait until your father gets home.........if you think i'm mad, just wait until he hears about this! CarmieJo 07-14-2006, 10:21 PM <smack>
Of course we aren't much worse for the wear! fat walrus 07-14-2006, 10:28 PM <smack>
Of course we aren't much worse for the wear!
haha. scraping coralline is nothing compare to the pots that i had to scrubb after the <smack>. :( veriann 07-15-2006, 10:39 AM For one to grow coraline, one only has to look at the other animals u are dosing for! the elements u would pick for good growth include the likes of calcium, magnesium, strontium, iodine, boron & the list goes on! it just happens to be what coraline algae needs to grow as well. products like purple up are a major boost in elements yes,> who has the chemical listing of this product so we can see first hand? i'll just throw a few flags in the play if i can be so bold!
firstly lets take an element> lets go strontium this time, in nature its at an equalibrium of 8ppm, in a closed system like our tanks values can jump because of all the extras we add! & how are u going to know unless u test for it! up to & past 15ppm & id start to become concerned!
second point i'd like to make is coraline although it has so many benifical points in its corner, the fact remains its a crust forming over the the LR, thus capping any pore spaces on that LR. any bacteria inside these pores are effectively killed! plus unless u have some funky urchin to chew threw it, its going to be there for quite some time! yes bacteria populations grow on top of this crust, but in theroy (my opinion only guys) u are losing alot of collony space if u go crazy with these booster products!
store that in your useless information centers will you! lol Raggamuffin 07-15-2006, 05:23 PM you guys just had to encourage it didn't you...... I found a little spot of purple growing on my back pane this AM. it's only about an 1/8 inch across but I know what it means. CarmieJo 07-15-2006, 08:54 PM Get that scraper out! Amphibious 07-15-2006, 09:44 PM Mr or should I say Master V,
I just read this whole thread and all the while thinking I was going to have to pound out another lecture about the indiscriminate dosing of chemicals into our aquariums. And this one, Purple Up, (Or burble up or throw up) just to hurry up the growth of Coraline algae which, if given a wee bit of patience will grow naturally. Coraline has never failed me in it's quest to bless my rock with beautiful hues of color. Sure enough it's done it again in the 135. I hate wasting money on unnecessary things, especially chemical additives that I cannot test for!
So picture this: Amp bows low to pay respect to the superior wisdom of the mighty V from the land down under. veriann 07-15-2006, 10:25 PM ha, i dont think u want to do that Amp, maybe tommorow, but today im wearing my smelly sneakers...lol yes, thats a great point..
this stuff will all grow on tis own, with or without the additives. Amphibious 07-15-2006, 10:45 PM Oh geeech, thanks for the warning, V. :no: :p
Rob,
My point is, the younger generation is so into quick fixes that manufactures bring crap out that isn't necessary so they can increase their bottom line. My personl feelings is why mess with Mother Nature? She's been growing coraline on her own just fine. veriann 07-15-2006, 10:54 PM i think the main problem i find with store bought additives is the fact the manufactures add "filler" agents that are not target specific. yes...
while ine most cases the harms of using such products are nothing more than wasting money... your right..
when i started out i used something similar, target towards coralline and coral growth. i soon learned that i wasn't doing anything but wasting money.. for the last few years, i have added nothing other than element replacements (Ca, Alk, Mg, etc)
and the underlying issue is exactly what you point out... impatience.. the stuff will grow, and as i can tell you, it will in time grow more than you want it too.. :D
as usual, you guys are right on.. veriann 07-16-2006, 12:28 AM yeah thats it, u guys want coraline growth, send rob a 6pack of beers & he'll post u a wet baggie of coraline he's scrapped off using a bull doser no beer, send me a Ca reactor, or a controller.. :D veriann 07-16-2006, 12:48 AM christmas is coming, maybe santa & TR members will be generous this year! lol Raggamuffin 07-16-2006, 01:06 AM I'd be happy finding a good place to snag up various "un-cured" live rocks, the only place around sells "cured" at $10 a pound and it's virtually devoid of coraline even if it does have higher then normal rates or softies on it. veriann 07-16-2006, 01:23 AM this industries a crock sometimes, annoys me that because they know that we know that that rock has bacteria we need to work straight away in our tanks, they jack the price up, yet these same collectors would be just as happy to throw the same piece in a dry pile, cause iat the end of the day its just rock that some poor schmo has dived for!
dont tell me its because the LFS has thrown it in a large tub with a protein skimmer for a couple of weeks that its cover any overheads & mark ups!
try a 700%mark up out of greed JayBeDriften 07-17-2006, 09:55 AM You guys are hilarious! veriann 07-18-2006, 07:36 AM what controller rob? to control what? as in parmeter controller, surge? what controller rob? to control what? as in parmeter controller, surge?
like the Aquacontroller, or Reefkeeper controller.
one that does lights,pumps, PH, temp, etc.. |