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wildeone
06-13-2006, 06:05 PM
My leather coral has not had it polyps extended since at least Saturday. It my have been longer, but I cannot remember exactly which day it started this. I will test my water later tonight, but as of my last test which was 6 days ago everything was normal except for a slight drop in SG from 1.025 to 1.023 due to my ATO having a slight issue.

That has been fixed and I plan on doing a changeout tonight of 10 gallons to try to raise it to 1.024. The leather has been opening and closing occasionally, but it has not been extended. I actually picked it up 2 days ago and looked at it closely. There were no marks on it that I could notice. Any ideas?

pham411
06-13-2006, 06:28 PM
i had a similar problem when i first brought home my leather. i didnt open for about 2 weeks and was slowly shrinking. one nite i was looking in my tank after dark and noticed a crab was eating away at the base of my leather. i quickly captured the corpate and a few days later the leater bloomed. it has now recovered.

wildeone
06-13-2006, 08:31 PM
Iwill give it 2 more days and then I am going to give it a thorough inspection. Can I remove it from the water to inspect it? I guess now would be a good time to have a Quarentine Tank......

fat walrus
06-13-2006, 09:37 PM
yes, it is okay to take it out to inspect it. leathers do shut down temporarily in preparation for a new shedding, especially after water parameter shifts. look out for bacterial infection.

wildeone
06-14-2006, 09:21 AM
Just a note, I tested my water and everything was OK. All reading were before water change.

Ammonia 0
Nirtite .1
Nitrate 5
SG 1.024 (after change out of 5 Gallons, it was closer to 1.023 before change out)
PH 8.1
PO4 .25
CA 440
dH 7.84

My Nitrite and Nitrate were 0 at last test, but I expected a mini cycle after adding my final 2 fish last Saturday.

wildeone
06-14-2006, 09:23 AM
leathers do shut down temporarily in preparation for a new shedding,

I guess I have more to learn about these guys (as always). When you say shedding, what are you refering to, the slime coat that they excrete at times?

Rob
06-14-2006, 09:50 AM
they will actually shed of there outter most layer of tissue. its common when they are not getting enough flow, or when they are stressed.

fat walrus
06-14-2006, 10:45 PM
any updates on the leather, wildeone?

wildeone
06-14-2006, 11:15 PM
It is still closed, I have a few photos I will throw up that I tookl when I pulled it and inspected it.

wildeone
06-14-2006, 11:47 PM
I noticed a bulge on one side. I am not sure if this was there when I put it in the tank or not as this was my very first coral and I was really nervous and just wanted to get it in the water after acclimation and not mess with it.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/aad188bc.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/acfd38fa.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/79430f9a.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/33426687.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/0cbd226f.jpg

wildeone
06-14-2006, 11:47 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/6d0eaeea.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/65868a6f.jpg

fat walrus
06-14-2006, 11:54 PM
it looks ok from my perspective. my leathers get that shiny or waxy look before shedding.

wildeone
06-15-2006, 12:03 AM
OK thanks for the help. I will let it go for a few more days and see what happens. I am actually probably causing it more harm by removing it and inspecting it that if I would have just left it alone.

I guess I should stand by the old statement "Reef Tanks - Only Bad things happen fast."

Rob
06-15-2006, 12:42 AM
yes, and keep a close eye on those bulge areas at the base. just make sure they dont grow or expand. but the head doenst look bad

gwen_o_lyn
06-15-2006, 01:14 PM
That last pic in post #10 around the base looks like its opened up there a little. Just make sure nothing is eating it. The top looks great though.

Since you have a large piece- you can always try fragging it. Just cut a piece on the top and attach to a rock. You really can't mess up when it comes to fragging a leather. I usually find that the frags look better than the mother colony many times- they always look happy and extended after just a few days.

wildeone
06-15-2006, 01:23 PM
I agree with you about the pic in #10. I forgot to mention that at the time of the post as I was in a hurry to go to bed.

What do you know about hermits that have a big claw. I noticed one of my black & white strped hermits has a big claw while all of the others have small claws. I thought I read somewhere that those may not be reef compatable.

And if there is anyone who knows hermits here it is Gwen the hermit queen!

gwen_o_lyn
06-15-2006, 01:25 PM
lol.. I don't know about being the hermit queen- lol!
But I sure do love hermits!
Can you post a pic? I haven't dealt with white striped hermits before.

wildeone
06-15-2006, 01:51 PM
Here is a bad photo of the crab, but a good photo of the claw.


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/4228211c.jpg

wildeone
06-15-2006, 08:02 PM
So, let me see if I have this correct as I have never done this before. I cut a piece of the top (how big?) and I attach it to a rock. Is this where I use super glue gel or do I just use a rubberband? Someone said put it in a plastic cup with a rock in the bottom and it would grow to it without being bound....

Anything else I need to know as this sounds a little dangerous to me since I have never done it before......

fat walrus
06-15-2006, 08:21 PM
i use the cup method. most people i know use the rubber band method. the piece can be as big as you want, just not so small that it will get lost. approx the size of the diameter of cup is good. your hermit looks just like some of mine, no problem as far as i know.

gwen_o_lyn
06-15-2006, 08:53 PM
I like to use either zip ties or a rubberband, but not too tight. Usually after a week it will be attached.

Rob
06-16-2006, 12:26 AM
here are some guidelines to follow

http://www.garf.org/MPegs/SarcoPropagation.html

wildeone
06-16-2006, 06:46 PM
Great resource Rob! I will use it in a couple of weeks!

I will give him some time to rest because.......

He's Baaaaack!

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/d581e6ef.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i233/wildeone/64c1fbff.jpg

Whew...I am so relieved! Thanks for everyones help on this!

gwen_o_lyn
06-16-2006, 07:12 PM
wow- that is a relieve! He is lookin' better than ever!!

now it's time to chop it up :)

fat walrus
06-16-2006, 09:12 PM
oh yeah....its BACK! no panic next time right?

wildeone
06-16-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah no panic next time is right.....patience...patience...patience!