Hello, I wanted to get some opinions on Heaters.
My setup is a 90 gallon tank, 30 gallon sump, and 50 gallon fuge. I dont let it get that cold in my house and we are in Texas.
Do people genrally go with 2 heaters so if 1 fails theres a backup or just 1?
This heater will go in my sump :)

Aaron,

I only have one for my system. I have a capacity of about 65 gallons and my heater is also stashed in my sump. That being said, your system is twice as big as mine, having a failsafe is a good idea and heaters are cheap. I plan to add another in the fall.

What brands are good? Is there a diffrence between the titanium and Plastic ones? Which is better? I remember Rob mentioned it in one of the podcast but I listend to them all in the last few days and cant remember which one he talked about.

What brands are good? Is there a diffrence between the titanium and Plastic ones? Which is better? I remember Rob mentioned it in one of the podcast but I listend to them all in the last few days and cant remember which one he talked about.
i prefer the plastic over the titanium.
check out the show #53 for some details on those heaters

my favorite heaters are Ebo Jager, and the Visi-therm stealth.

no such thing as ebo jager anymore. now its eheim jager. eheim has made minor changes, but long term effect is still not known. ebo-jagers were a heater before its time, still considered to by the best by many. check out hagen fluval tronics also.

i have 2 one in the sump & one in the display.....they are never on at the same time, which leads me to believe that that is the way to go, for my setup anyways

no such thing as ebo jager anymore. now its eheim jager. eheim has made minor changes, but long term effect is still not known. ebo-jagers were a heater before its time, still considered to by the best by many. check out hagen fluval tronics also.
wow.. i didnt know they were bought out..
i hope they stay as good, they were by absolute fav.

im one for the tronics personally, but this is a question thats on topic, but off topic.what ever happened to those heat mats u guys produced a few years back that sat under the tank itself. like a reptile heat pad. that never made it here, but im assuming u couldn't use styro for the base with this!?

i have a tronics heater now im my tank, so far i like. the thermostats off a bit, but not to bad..

I know Rob prefers plastic (I'm not at that podcast yet). But I am very happy with my Pro Heat II IC Titanium heater. I have never gotten good accuracy out of other heaters.

im not against titanium heaters, you just have to be careful wit the temp probe, and use something better than a suction cup to hold them in place.

the nice thing with titanium heaters is they are usually higher wattage and shorter. so they are easier to fit in your sump.

Well I guess a good thing is that I have a Chiller that has a heater plug, I guess when temp drops below what I have set it will turn on that plug. So the chiller will really have the final say on if the heater is on or not.
Has anyone done it this way?

im one for the tronics personally, but this is a question thats on topic, but off topic.what ever happened to those heat mats u guys produced a few years back that sat under the tank itself. like a reptile heat pad. that never made it here, but im assuming u couldn't use styro for the base with this!?
those heat pads fell out of favor because plexiglass was not good heat transfer material and became brittle. also turned out that it was not a good idea to have pad under glass also, i was an unfortunate user myself. some people here use heat coils in the sand bed.

Well I guess a good thing is that I have a Chiller that has a heater plug, I guess when temp drops below what I have set it will turn on that plug. So the chiller will really have the final say on if the heater is on or not.
Has anyone done it this way?
yes, i have a coralife chiller with outlet for heater. the outlet does not get power unless chiller is off. that way the heater does not fight with the chiller. my bigger systems uses medusa dual phase controller.

i have a tronics heater now im my tank, so far i like. the thermostats off a bit, but not to bad..
next time try the newer version called fluval tronics. updated thermostat, fail off design, bumper guards to prevent heater from touching tank or sump wall or floor. also UL listed.

i have a tronics heater now I'm my tank, so far i like. the thermostats off a bit, but not to bad..

I'm sorry Rob but I cant find these heaters anywhere.
Are you abbreviating?
If you have a link to them that would be great but I know your a busy guy so if not thats cool :mrgreen:

no, not an abbreviation..
look for visi-therm stealth..
they are crack proof plastic heaters... these are my second favorite to ebo jagers (or what used to be ebo jager)

I'm sorry Rob but I cant find these heaters anywhere.
Are you abbreviating?
If you have a link to them that would be great but I know your a busy guy so if not thats cool :mrgreen:
tronics are made by HAGEN. you can find steath made by AQUARIUM SYSTEMS.

those heat pads fell out of favor because plexiglass was not good heat transfer material and became brittle. also turned out that it was not a good idea to have pad under glass also, i was an unfortunate user myself. some people here use heat coils in the sand bed.

Also, I would think that the have the heat generated within or below the sand bed, that the sand bed would actually be too hot while the heat is dissipating upwards....

wow.. i didnt know they were bought out..
i hope they stay as good, they were by absolute fav.


I didn't know that either. Makes me wanna go grab the last ones off the shelves. The new ones look the same so I hope they are just as good.

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_heaters_ebo-jager.asp?CartId=

How long ago did this happen?

I didn't know that either. Makes me wanna go grab the last ones off the shelves. The new ones look the same so I hope they are just as good.

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_heaters_ebo-jager.asp?CartId=

How long ago did this happen?
jager is the company that make the electronic components. ebo did the assembly and packaging. the design is still the same except the eheim now does the assembly and packaging along with some different sources of certain parts. the newer ones come in a flatter box, if you find any with the older style box. the older box was blue, the new box mostly grey.

oh it happen about a year ago. where have all you guys been?

hiding under a frag, untill u shot me in the rump with your frag gun!
ur a bundle of blubber and information fat albert!
thanks for bringing me out of the dark ages!

hiding under a frag, untill u shot me in the rump with your frag gun!
ur a bundle of blubber and information fat albert!
thanks for bringing me out of the dark ages!
hey hey hey.......it's fatttttt...:rotfl:

i tried to hide under the frag too. just could't fit. next time you small 'uns" can take shelter under my belly.:agree:

oh it happen about a year ago. where have all you guys been?

well I've been on that mission to Mars to visit Veriann and I just got back.... :cool:

well I've been on that mission to Mars to visit Veriann and I just got back.... :cool:
yea, and i was flying the ship...
cut us some slack.. :D

Does anyone know if the Ebo's have a light on them to tell when they are on? My primary concern with the Stealth is the lack of an on indicator light. I guess this may not be a big deal but for some reason it seems important...

Also with a total water volume of 150 gallons what would be the best setup for a heater ie 2 250w or 2 200w's ?

And would you put them both in the sump? I was thinking of putting one in the 50gallon fuge and 1 in the sump. :rolleyes:

yes, the current ebo jaber heaters do have lights on them

and i wouldn't see an issue with both of them in the sump, thats how mine is

if 2 heaters are too close to each other, their thermostats may be influenced by each other.

yep, good point...
they should be spaced out